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laalaUÊ laoK Krca Cana Aaho. ekdma pTlaa. thx.
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Prasadp77
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| | Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 8:11 am: |
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Anjali,
I agree with your comments, about their hypocracy and many conservative remarks. We just cant digest these attitudes but if you look in their perspective, such attitudes are getting 'their job done' which changes from individual to individual but overall, it helps the community, to what extent that can be another issue to debate. For e.g. Iraq war, Bush managed its way, making US supreme power in the world, getting another testing ground for new weapons developed, giving opportunities to many many ameican companies to grow their business. So if I am a businessman in US, why would I oppose this war. Yes its costing few lives, but earth is loaded with too many people anyway so why would I care as long as my bottom is safe!!
Anybody agrees or not, religion has got enormous effect on population. So this is another way to keep people together. In recent past, we have started criticising our own customs and traditions from movies like knock knock, I want to marry or Hyderabad Blues etc. for e.g. but whats wrong in it, its a custom, you like it, follow else just shut the **** up, (at least such customs are not worth detesting as Sati or female infanticide) this is what these guys do. If they like it, think its best suited for them, they do it or just lock their tongue. Our open criticism gives these guys opportunity to make remarks on our system. For e.g. Sweden is seriously pondering over issue of banning scarves in public places but they conveniently forget at this moment that not so long, just 50 years ago, hardly any Swedish female used to use provocative clothes (which is common place and completely clad female is rare sight, except in winter) and would be seen without head scarf, they don't say a word about it. Pointing it to them reveals that the 'time has changed and you have to change with it' so the time has changed for them and they expect it to change for 'everyone' residing in country. This is hypocracy but it is good for Swedes as they want to have total control on the immigrant population who is breeding like rabbits at this moment and will outnumber native population in a decade so its very necessary for Swedes to change this new stock of human population to look similar as their own stock. In the bottom of the their heart, they find it very difficult to accept muslim immigrants getting assimilated in their society. So though tiny number of open swedes don't agree with this ban and respect rights to exercise religion, they don't say a word. Sleek and professional, job done...
We don't have such strong feeling in India but the result of it is recent Savarkar issue. If you have american mentality, you at least stick to it and talk 'in voice' and make your way, 'though you are wrong' in rest of the world's eye whereas by having Indian attitude, you can't even beat others in India or you can not voice any opinion. We cant agree on any opinion, you don't like any of your custom, you criticise it in open and tell the world how stupid your ancestors were, why so??? They were not stupid rather I must say that we are come from world's one of the finest stock, when the world was hunting around the jungle for food in almost naked condition, we were living in palaces and having finest life style, but NO, we criticise as we think that we are not as good as westerners and if someone supports some notion in society, like arranged marriage, we criticise openly, come up with movies like said above, forgeting conveniently about the negative side of western life style and give a change to these guys to ask us, how can you buy a car without a test-drive? We don't talk what represents our society, we talk as an individual but not as a nation or a society, we point out rare events of the society which otherwise would have gone un-noticed and give a change for the world to point fingers at us and this is exactly other side of the world doesn't do. I don't want to say its healthy mentality but again its individual preference. In my personal view,it DOES make sense to have such mentality.
Don't know if I could put it properly to make my view even after writing so much.
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Prasadp77
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| | Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 6:46 am: |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3611848.stm
Does THIS represent majority of our society? In my opinion, NO, but certainly a faction of illiterate and uneducated faction of the society. More comments welcome.
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Sunilt
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| | Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 7:15 am: |
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Shocking but TRUE (may be a minuscule minority but yes - OUR society).
Even in the urban and educated society, widows are seldom welcomed in functions such as maMgaLagaa^rI ikMvaa hrtalaIka
Isn't it ?
I think, the film mentioned of Deepa Mehta is "FIRE".
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Peshawa
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| | Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 4:52 pm: |
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NOp the film mentioned is deepa mehtas water... which she is still working on creating a vrindawan in some other country...
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Paragkan
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| | Monday, September 13, 2004 - 9:09 pm: |
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http://us.rediff.com/news/2004/sep/13swadas.htm .. .. ..
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caohro pusalaolaI maaNasaM
EaImaMt dovaaMcaa garIba Baart
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Pha
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| | Monday, November 22, 2004 - 5:53 am: |
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dIpÊ " caohra pusalaolaI maaNasaM " vaacalaM. %yaat baalagaItaMcyaa AnauYaMgaanaI maaMDlaolaa lahana maulaaMcyaa iXaxaNaacaa mau_a ivacaar
krNyaajaÜgaa Aaho. Aaplyaa maulaaMnaa [MiglaXa áhamsa mhNatanaa pahUna kÝtukanaM Ba$na yaoNaaáyaa palakaMnaadoKIla
%yaa áhamsamaQalao kahI saMdBa- maaiht nasatat. %yaa kÝtukamaagao Aaplyaa maulaalaa [MiglaXa baÜlata
yaola / yaotM AaiNa Aaplyaalaa jyaap`maaNao fD\yaa- [MiglaXaABaavaI / baaLbaÜQa maáhaTmaÜL\yaa [MiglaXamauLo krIAr ³AaiNa ekMdrItca´ ADcaNaI Aalyaa tXaa Aaplyaa maulaaMnaa
yaoNaar naahI hI nyaUnagaMDatUna ]d\BavalaolaI Baavanaa Asato. [MiglaXa BaaYaa AaiNa saahobaI eoT yaacaM
samaIkrNa manaavar zsalyaacaa ha pirNaama²
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Storvi
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| | Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 4:25 pm: |
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A different President, and a different precedent
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Lalu
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| | Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 6:56 pm: |
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storvi, link chalat nahi!!
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Gautami
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| | Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 7:30 pm: |
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here is the correct link http://in.news.yahoo.com/041130/43/2i704.html
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Wakdya
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| | Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 7:07 am: |
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http://www.loksatta.com/front.html dt.18/12/04 front page
ramanaaqa gaÜeMka ip@car Aa^Ô d [yar caa bahUmaana jyaa fÜTÜsa imaLalaa Aaho tÜ fÜTÜ baGata imaiDyaa kDuna
AXaa fÜTÜMcao p`dXa-na ]icat vaaTto Aaho kaÆ
kuNaavar kÜsaLlaolyaa jaIvaGaoNyaa p`saMgaacao ica~Na kÉna paz qaÜpTuna GaoNyaacaI hI vaR<aI ivaÌtI
yaa sadrat maÜDt naahI kaÆ klaocaa ha kÜNata AivaYkar Aaho kI jyaa krta TaL\yaaMcyaa kDkDaTat kÝtukacaa
vaYaa-va vhavaaÆ %yaa fÜTÜmaiQala ijavaMt Asalaolyaa vyai>laa yaa fÜTÜcao Asao jaahIr p`dXa-na AaiNa
to doiKla baixasa vagaOro vaaTNyaacyaa saMdBaa-t Jaalaolao baGauna kahIca yaatnaa Jaalyaa nasaitla kaÆ
laÜksa<aa ikMvaa e@sp`osa ga`up kDuna yaovhZI maÜzI GaÜDcaUk Apoixat navhtI
any comments?
http://www.loksatta.com/daily/20041218/mp01.htm
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Maitreyee
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| | Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 3:37 pm: |
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imaiDyaacyaa inala-jjpNaacaa kLsa Aaho²
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Rangy
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| | Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 12:12 am: |
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I can't believe this! he ase photo chhpana he kayadyane tari chalata ka? tyala prize milun koutuk.. ekikade ha photo ani dusarikade hastana photographer, kay mhanve kalat nahi.. sunna houn gele
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Bee
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| | Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 2:54 am: |
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vaakD\yaa (alaa AmaanauYa vaR<aI mhNatat. %yaaMnaa maga AXaaca kahI gaÜYTIt klaa idsaUna yaoto. Krca
%yaa Baavaalaa AaiNa %yaacyaa kuTuMbaIyaaMnaa kaya vaaTlao Asaola.. ivacaar krvat naahI. purskar Gaotanaacao
%yaaMcao to ismat hasya pahUNa AaiNa %yaaMnaa Amsterdam world press photo contest maQaohI Baaga Gaota yaola ho vaacaUna tLpayaacaI Aaga mastkalaa jaato...
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Wakdya
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| | Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:35 am: |
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p`itiËyaaMba_la AaBaar
AgadI qaMD DÜ@yaanao ivacaar kolaa AsataÊ tÜ Cayaaica~kar %yaacyaa Cayaaica~Naacyaa sajaga AaiNa saavaQa
kt-vyaat ksaur na kolyaaba_la jaÉr kÝtukasa pa~ Aaho maa~ to kÝtuk krtanaa Anya naOitktocao inayama Qaabyaavar
basaivalao gaolao Aahot Asao malaa vaaTlao maaJaa Aaxaop %yaanao fÜTÜ kaZNyaalaa nasaunaÊ gaÜeMkaMcyaa
naavaanao doNyaat yaot Asalaolyaa purskaracyaa inaima<aanao tÜ fÜTÜ AXaap`karo p`isaw krNyaalaa Aaho
ikMbahunaa Asao fÜTÜ p`isaw vhavaot kI naahI haca mauLI vaadacaa ivaYaya Aaho. maaJyaapurto baÜlaayacao
tr maI fÜTÜ kaZu QajalaÜ AsatÜÊ tI p`itixaPt iËyaa JaalaI AsatIÊ maa~ mauLat Asalaa fÜTÜ spQao-krIta kiQaca
pazivalaa nasata ho hI ittkoca Kro
varIla baatmaIt purskar kuNaalaa idlaaÊ kaya idlaaÊ kuNaacyaa inaima<aanao idlaa yaovhDoca jarI idlao
Asato tr %yaat %yaa purskaracaI AaiNa vaR<ap~acaI doiKla Xaana rahIlaI AsatI
ho mhNajao Í,MTpojavar sanasanaaTI fÜTÜ vaa hoiDMga dovauna vaR<ap~acaa Kp vaaZivaNyaacao hla@yaa djaa-cao
kama vaaTtoÊ malaa trI vaR<ap~ hatat Aalyaavar popr TakNaaáyaanao caukuna pÜilasa Tamsa Taklaa kI
kaya Asao vaaTlao hÜto
AsaÜÊ imaiDyaa tsmaO namaÁ
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US study finds excessive metal in Ayurvedic drugs
View and Counter View - Times of India, Pune - 17th Dec. 2004
TIMES V I E W
Holistic healing cannot be sold over the counter
There is nothing wrong with Ayurveda, a scientific, holistic medical discipline tried and tested over 5,000 years. But there is everything wrong with the misuse of Ayurveda. And this is precisely what has been happening in the US. Unlike allopathy which only suppresses the symptoms, Ayurveda actually heals the patient. However, this means that Ayurveda is not just medication, but an entire lifestyle. The patient is always treated on an individual basis. Each case is distinct from another, and prescriptions are tailor-made according to different body types. In fact, diet plays as important a role in the healing process as does the medicine. Merely swallowing pills without observing the other dos and donts associated with the course of medication can not only prove ineffective but also downright harmful. Unlike allopathic medicine, Ayurvedic formulations cannot be sold as overthe-counter non-prescription drugs.
As in the case of other eastern disciplines from spirituality to yoga, Ayurveda has suddenly become the flavour of the month in the West. While there are many genuine practitioners of Ayurveda in America, there are inevitably any number of quacks who are unscrupulously cashing in on the latest buzzword in alternative medicine. The fact that healthcare in the US is prohibitively costly some 45 million Americans are said to be currently without any form of medical insurance makes Ayurveda and other similar healing systems all the more attractive. It is also possible that in the West, Ayurvedic drugs are artificially and dangerously boosted by steroids and other chemical stimulants so as to appear to act faster to keep pace with allopathic medication. Such a cocktail of allopathy and traditional healing systems cannot be anything but disastrous. So dont debunk Ayurveda. Instead, debunk the uninformed credulity with which people in the West are trying to seize Ayurveda as a miracle cure-all.
COUNTER V I E W
This is a conspiracy by big pharma companies
The success and acceptance of Ayurveda in the West has been a bitter pill to swallow for big pharma companies. A study done by the Harvard Medical School claims that many Ayurvedic medicines sold in the US contain dangerous levels of lead, mercury and arsenic. Articles and studies in mainline US media knocking alternative medicine in general and Ayurveda in particular have been surfacing recently. Clearly, powerful pharma companies whose interests are being hurt are behind this running down of Ayurveda. Over the last two decades, pharmaceutical companies enjoyed almost unbridled growth in the US. They came up tops till 2003 as the most profitable industry. Till 2000, these companies enjoyed profit margins which were four times that of an average Fortune 500 company. But growing cynicism with allopathic medicine, rapacious over-pricing and recent scandals involving some highly promoted drugs have made people turn away from them to alternative medicines.
Ayurveda, which is considered the oldest known medical system, is based on holistic treatment rather than merely treating the symptoms. Its formulations are well-documented and widely available. Ayurveda was studied extensively by people from China, Tibet, Egypt, Afghanistan, Persia and Rome. Its texts were translated into Arabic. However, drug companies which claim to have cures for all our ills withhold much information which should be in the public domain. Little is known about what kind of research goes into each drug that finally reaches the market. In the US, pharma companies can conduct any number of trials and pick and choose the results they want before forwarding them to the regulator. They dont have to reveal any negative effects of the trials. Given the complete lack of transparency in the drug business and the high stakes involved, it isnt surprising that big pharma companies will try to kill the growing interest in Ayurveda. This is how they hope to keep their bottomlines healthy.
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Mumbaikar
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| | Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 5:59 am: |
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Regarding Ramnath Goenka Picture of the year :-
Maza hi man faar aswastha zala te phota pahun. Ekhadhyachya dukahce ase zaahir pradarshan karne aani tyatun vahava milavne ?
The Photo which should have been disqualified, wins the competition ? Spardhak aani Aayojakala kahi morality aahe ki nahi.
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Champak
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| | Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:28 am: |
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If this is your view for RG Picture competiotion, then what about the one for Pulitzer Prize winning Foto ¿¿
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Zakki
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| | Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 7:42 pm: |
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caMpkÊ ek gaÜYT laxaat zova. paMZáyaa katDIcyaa sava-saaQaarNa maaNasaaMnaaÊ [tr laÜkaMcyaa babatIt maaNaUsakI caa ivacaar yaot naahI. ek tr janaavaraMnaaÊ pxyaaMnaaÊ
jalacaraMnaa Aa%maa nasatÜÊ ina dovaanao %yaaMnaa manauYyaacyaa ]pyaÜgaasaazI janmaalaa Gaatlao AahoÊ
AXaI %yaaMcaI samajaUt Asato. AaNaI katDI paMZrI nasaola tr tI janaavaroca AahotÊ Asao %yaaMnaa vaaTto.
[ithasaat AXaI Anaok ]dahrNao AahotÊ [Mga`jaaMcyaa sauÉvaatIcyaa kaLat [MglaMDmaQalyaa laÜkaMnaI Baartaba_la
kaya ilaihlao hÜto to ekda vaacaayalaa imaLalao hÜtoÊ iXavaaya gaolyaa tIsa vaYaa-t Asao Anaok AnauBava
Aalao yaa laÜkaMXaI baÜlatanaa. mhNaUna Asao malaa vaaTto.
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campkÊ tu campkca hosa ho punha punha ka isaw krtÜ ro BaÜÆ 
AarjaI cyaa fÜTÜ maQaI Kro-Kuro- p`ot laTktya Ana itcaa Baava rDt fÜna var baÜlatÜyaÊ Ajauna pncanaamaa
baI hÜyaacaa hoÊ tÜ Baava Ajauna ijavant AsalaÊ %yaa p`otacao naatovaak baI AsaitlaÊ Asalaa fÜTÜlaa piblaisaTI
VayacaIÆ
puila%Jar maQala pÜrga kaya kI igaQaaD kaya kÜNaacaaca maagamausa ]rlaa naahI hoÊ %yaa fÜTÜt jao idsat
%yaavaÉna jao kLt to Asa kI maaNasaaca baaL pNa ranaTI pxaIjanaavaranca Baxya yakivasaavyaa Xatkat hÜvau
Xakt jaKmaI maaNausa marayacaI vaaT baGat qaambalaolyaa igaQaaDanba_la eokla hÜtÊ to %yaa fÜTut idsat.
%yaa baaLavar AXaI vaoL ka AalaI yaa kD doiKla Qyaana jaat XamBar Abjaavar laÜksan#yaa Asalaolyaa pRqvaIvar
ho Asala ica~ idsaNa ho p`%yaok maanavaanao laajaonao maana KalaI Gaalaaiva Asa ho mhNauna %yaa fÜTulaa
puila%Jar
AarjaIcaa fÜTu puNa-pNaI vaOya>Ik duÁK vaodnaa XaÜk AaËÜYaacaahoÊ Aayalaa mhnjaI camPyaa tu iknvaa
myaa kQaI caukuna rDtanaa idsalaÜ tr (o imaiDyaavaalao %yaavar doiKla pOsaa Ana p`isawI kmaavatIla kI
ro Baܲ [ccaar kr jara²
puila%Jarcyaa fÜTut jasa kahI kLt tsa AarjaIcyaa fÜTut kaya kLt baoÆ
Ana puila%Jarcaa fÜTu kaZayalaa tÜ kÜNa gaÜáyaa hÜta tÜ baÜmbalat AaiÍkot gaolaolaa ( AaiÍkotca naaÆ ) Ê Ana AarjaIcyaa mhsaÜbaa Aa^na D\yauTI klak+\yaatlyaa klak+\yaat gaolaolaa² Aa%mah%yaocaI baatmaI Ana
fÜTu AaNaalaa² tvaa kncaa trI fÜTu imaLNaarca naaÆ manga %yaolaa baixasa idla %yao tÜ xaNa iTplaa mhNauna
kI %yaa fÜTucaI ÍomacaI PlaosamaoNTlaa ( mhnjaI yaokIkD laTkt p`otÊ %yaÜ BaavaÊ %yaocaa caohra javaLpasa puNa- idsNaÊ fÜksa A^ngala ) idlaaÆ kI %yaa fÜTutlyaa ivaYayaalaa idlaaÆ puila%Jar ivaYayaalaa QaÉna idla gaolayaÊ AajaI- na kbaula
klaca ho kI ivaYayaalaa QaÉna idla hoÊ tr Asalaa ivaYayaÆ
%yao kaya naayaÊ
vaakD\yaaÊ maaJa tulaa sampuNa- AnaumaÜdna ho 
Ana %yao Ja@kIbaÜvaa kaya baÜllao to malaa kL\L naahI ho
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Sunilt
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 3:36 am: |
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AarjaI kaya ikMvaa puila%Jar kayaÊ dÜnhI maZacyaa TaLUvarcaM laÜNaI KaNyaacaaca p`kar ²
jcyaaMcaa ÔÜTÜ kaZlaa to raihlao baajaUlaa AaiNa (aMnaa maa~ purskar ²²
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Mumbaikar
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 5:12 am: |
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Kaalchya (29/12/2004) vruttpatrat (i think in TOI) hi asach ashayacha ek phota chapun aalay. This is in context to the illicit liquor case. Ek bahin aaplya natevaikana shokakul houn, phone karun bhavachya dukhad nidhan na baddal sangat aahe, ani tech bhavmudra photgrapher ni tiplay.
I think the RG award has encouraged this photographer to click this one and publish it. One error leads to another.
Journalism should not be done only to create sensation but to create social awareness among the masses.
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Maitreyee
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 3:51 pm: |
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/975938.cms
ho sagaLo mahahuYaar Ant&a-naI jyaÜitYaI laÜk naohmaI GaTnaa GaDUna gaolyaavar ka baro puZo yaotat²²
³ANNaa pavaXyaaM saarKo²´
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Svsameer
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 5:47 pm: |
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MTR
you should have provided this link in PJ section
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Asami
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 5:48 pm: |
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cyaamaarIÊ A<a ho Dooms Day cao prediction 2010 la naolao ka Æ maagao ima college maQao Asatanaa 1999 mhNaUna baÜmbalat hÜto.
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Rangy
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| | Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 6:13 pm: |
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ho na, 80s madhye pan jagbudati yenar hoti!
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Champak
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| | Friday, December 31, 2004 - 8:47 am: |
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kahI naahI ro laÜkaMnaÜÊ (a isa@saqa saoMsa vaalyaaMnaa ka^mana saoMsa naahIyao.......evaZoca Ô>
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Bossy
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| | Friday, December 31, 2004 - 3:55 pm: |
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(a naÜ^sT/aDa^masa cyaa caah%yaanaa naohomaI GaTnaa GaDlyaavar vaaTto ik tÜ ho ³pNa´ saaMgauna gaolaa
hÜta.
cyaayalaa kZayalaa eka vaa@yaacaa khIhI inakXa kaZta yaotÜ. maI mhNaIna jagaacaa AMt paNyaanao hÜNaar
AahoÊ ANau yauQQaanao Jaalaa tr mhNata yao[la ik maI hovaI vaa^Tr mhNat hÜtÜ.
to Dbalyau.TI.saI. cyaa vaoLI pNa toca. AkaXaatuna danava kI hOvaana ik kaihtrI dÜna BaavaaMvar ik kahItrI
pDolaÊ Aro kaya jauLvaajauLvaI.
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Bossy
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| | Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 2:48 am: |
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ho Gyaa ,
naÜ^sT/aDa^masa cyaa mato puZcyaa vaYaI- punha saunaamaI.
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Sunilt
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| | Monday, January 10, 2005 - 9:55 am: |
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kalacyaa Dawn (Pakistan) (a vaR<ap~atIla ek laoK -
The ifs and buts of history
By Irfan Husain
Of late, there has been much controversy over the two-nation theory sparked off by Altaf Hussain. The MQM chief is reported to have asserted in India that this theory was invalid.
I have often disagreed strongly with the self-exiled leader, but find his secular, anti-feudal stance refreshing. So while many voices in the mainstream media have condemned some of his statements as inflammatory and even traitorous, they do merit serious examination.
Let us start with the basics: a theory is a working hypothesis until it is proved or disproved by experience and experiment in the field and in the laboratory.
In essence, the two-nation theory enunciated by the top Muslim League leadership as the ideological basis for the demand for Pakistan stated that as Muslims and Hindus were two different nations, they needed separate homelands.
Mr Jinnah is on record as saying that as the two communities spoke different languages, ate different food, had different customs, and, above all, followed different religions, they constituted two entirely different nations.
The outcome of this theory and the political and territorial demand that emanated from it was the creation of Pakistan. Obviously, history cannot be rewritten, but it is still useful to examine the theory and see whether it stands up to analysis based on the experience gained since it was first articulated.
I have been mulling over this theme over the last week while travelling around in South India. Here, I have met a number of Muslims, and in their patchy Hindi and English, they have made it clear that they are completely at home, and get on very well with their Hindu and Christian neighbours.
This morning, a Sunday, I was on a boat in the back waters of Kerala, and could see the minarets of a mosque among the coconut palms. But the sound I heard was the sound of bells from a nearby church. A day earlier, our group drove past a large Hindu congregation. And just in case some readers feel sorry for the Muslims of Kerala, let me remind them that the oldest continuous community of Muslims in the subcontinent live right here.
They have integrated seamlessly into the fabric of the area, and do not see their faith as an issue. Their Hindu and Christian neighbours visit them at Eid, just as they celebrate Holi and Christmas with their friends.
How can these different communities be separated? They speak the same language, are ethnically of the same stock, and while orthodox Hindus may be vegetarians, they cook in the identical, delicious Kerala style. Until you ask them directly, it is impossible to tell who is Hindu, who is Muslim and who is Christian.
This brings us to a fundamental question: what defines a person? Surely not religion alone, although it is an important factor. Education, upbringing, geography, class and genes are just a few of the ingredients making up the complex matrix that is a human being.
Invariably, where we grow up is largely a matter of chance. A universal genetic lottery determines the circumstances in which we grow up. We cannot help being born black, white or yellow, any more than we can decide the faith into which we are born. And once born, we often have little control over the future.
Since the whole business of life is so random, can we say that we are superior to anybody else? Or so different that we cannot live next to them? Because that, in essence, is what the two-nation theory is about.
It is clear that in his demand for Pakistan, Mr Jinnah never envisaged the mass transfer of populations partition would trigger. Indeed, he was deeply sickened by the death and destruction that accompanied the birth of Pakistan.
But as Ayesha Jalal demonstrates in her seminal book The Sole Spokesman, the demand for Pakistan was initially a bargaining position for Mr Jinnah. The fact that he accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan calling for a confederation as late as 1946 indicates that he was prepared for a compromise until the very last moment.
It was only after the Congress leadership dilly dallied and raised objections that positions hardened and the creation of Pakistan became inevitable. The whole question of separateness was raised a hundred years ago by the Muslim aristocracy when the British were planning local elections.
Fearing being swamped by a Hindu majority, they petitioned their British overlords into agreeing to holding elections under a system of separate electorates, with Muslims voting for their own candidates.
This was the beginning of communal politics in India, and led willy-nilly to the demand for, and creation of, Pakistan. So far, this has been a somewhat academic discussion of past events that cannot be changed. But what implications does the two-nation theory have for the future?
For me, the concept of being unable to live next door to somebody because he has a different faith, or language, or appearance is intolerant and bigoted. And if Muslims cannot live with Hindus one day, West Pakistanis will be unable to live with Bengalis the next day, and Sunnis will be unable to live with Shias the following day.
Where does this logic lead us? Clearly, the demand for Pakistan was based on the perceived need to protect Muslim interests in the face of a Hindu majority after the British left. But if no transfer of population was contemplated, surely not much thought was given to the plight of the Muslims of India once Pakistan had come into being. And if they have been at a disadvantage in certain parts of India - and, indeed, suffered violence in sporadic riots - our own aggressive policies must be partly to blame.
One demographic aspect we need to consider is that currently, the subcontinent has a combined Muslim population of half a billion out of a total of 1.5 billion. This is not a small minority to kick around.
However, it must not be forgotten that in an undivided India, the area that constitutes Pakistan today would have remained a backwater. Before 1947, it was the least developed part of the subcontinent, and it is doubtful that much of Sindh, Balochistan, the NWFP and southern Punjab would have received much attention and resources in a united India.
Now when we are critical of the slow progress we think we have made, we forget the vast physical infrastructure that has been put in place. The two-nation theory served its purpose and has brought about the creation of Pakistan. It is time we laid it to rest.
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rajakIyaÊ saamaaijak ina Aaiqa-k d`uiYTkÜNaatUna phata maaJaa yaa ekIkrNaalaa kDkDUna sa#t ivarÜQa Aaho.
idealism ina secularism KrocaÊ pNa BaaMDUna svatÁcyaa payaavar ]Baa rhayalaa inaGaalaolyaa QaakT\yaa BaavaasaarKo to AaQaI baahor
pDlaoÊ ina maga kahIca jamalao naahIÊ kja-baajaarIÊ rÜgaga`st Jaalao. laÜkaMcaI manao ihMdud\vaoYaanao
BaDkvaUna kuzilaih Aaiqa-kÊ saamaaijak ina BaÝitk p`gait saaQya JaalaI naahI. [kDo maÜz\yaa BaavaacaI
maa~ BarBaraT pahUna d\vaoYaÊ ma%sar ]%pnna Jaalaa ina Aata prt ek~ yao} phatahotÊ caÜr laokacao. AaQaI
gamajaa krt hÜtoÊ laDko laoMgao ihMdustana² Aata kLUna cauklao kI hjar vaYaa-pUvaI- [tka Baart Aata
kmajaÜr naahIÊ maga XaopUT GaalaUna gainaima kavyaanao prt Baart baLka} baGatahot. kahI nakÜ %yaaMnaa
prt Gyaayalaa. %yaapoxaa %yaaMnaa Amaoirkocao 51 vao rajyaa banaU doÊ naahItr PyaÜTÜ- irkÜ saarKo territory banaU do² AaiNa maga Baartatlao mausalamaanaih itkDo Gao}na jaa. hvaot kXaalaa Asalao natd`YTÊ jao pakIstana
iËkoT saamanaa ijaMklyaavar AanaMdI AanaMd k$na fTako ]Dvatat²² ina toih Bar mauMbat²²
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Kiru
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Ja@kIÊ
AgadI KrM baÜlalaat. ho ***** ijaqao jaatIla itqao p`a^blaoma krtIla. jagaat hÜt Asalaolyaa p`%yaok dhXatvaadI Ì%yaaMmaQyao yaaMcaa
hat Aaho. nakÜca [qao kÜNaI.
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Graceful
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| | Monday, January 10, 2005 - 1:23 pm: |
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PLease remember...
All the Muslims living in India are not terrorists or antinationals.
Many have played significant roles in nation building. And one them, Dr. Abdul Kalam, is today the president of the country.Several of them have even laid their lives for the nation..
Same point the 'secular-minded' pakistani writer is making, and that is peaceful co-existance of different religions in every nation! I don't think he is talking about any "reunification" of the two nations.
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Zakki
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| | Monday, January 10, 2005 - 4:33 pm: |
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graceful Ê tumhI mhNata to Kro Aaho. pNa tsao gaolaI pnnaasa vaYao-Ê navho sa<aavana vaYao- peaceful coexistence caa maM~ AnaokaMnaI japlaa ina naMtr tabaDtÜba dhXatvaadI Ì%yao caalaUca zovalaI² Aa<aapya-Mt mausalamaanaaMnaI
ikitda ivaXvaasaGaat kolaa Aaho %yaacaI [ithasaat XaokDÜ ]dahrNao Aahot² maga Aa<aaca kahI frk pDola
AXaI AaXaa krNao kizNa vaaTto.
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