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Rangy
Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

gaolyaa maihnyaaBaratca pavaNao tIna vaYaa-ncyaa maulaIlaa pncatn~atlyaa kahI gaÜYTI saaingatlyaaÊ %yaamauLo (a cacao-nao laxa vaoQaUna Gaotlao. magar AaiNa maakDacaI gaÜYT Gyaa iknvaa [kDcaI Three Little Pigs Ê baáyaacada p`aNyaacyaa gaÜYTI maQyao kÜNatrI kÜNaalaa KaNaar Asao sandBa- na@kIca yaotat. malaahI vaaTto kI AapNa tI kqaa kXaI saangatÜ yaavar AaiNa maulaacyaa sensitivity var baroca kahI AvalambaUna Aaho. yaabaabatIt punyanagarikar caI mato AgadI pTlaIÊ karNa maaJaa tsaaca AnauBava Aaho.

kahI ima~ancyaa maulaI 8 /9 vaYaa-ncyaa AjaUnahI lion king maQyao %yaa lion laa maartat to baGaUna rDtat.

maaJyaa pavaNao tIna vaYaa-ncyaa maulaIlaa Asao eoktanaa p`XnahI Asatat kahI vaoLaÊ tI ivacaarayacaI " Aaš tI magar Asaa bad job ka krtoÆ " vagaOroÊ iknvaa " Three little pigs maQyao tÜ wolfe %yaancaa Gar ka maÜDUna TaktÜÆ " vagaOro. pNa AXaa svaaBaaivak XankancaI itlaa samajatIla AXaa BaaYaotÊ itcyaa BaavaivaXvaatIla ]dahrNao do}na samajaavalao tr itlaa %yaa gaÜYTItlaa maittaqa- na@kIca kLtÜ AaiNa laxaathI rahtÜ. maga nantr kQaItrI navaIna gaÜYT saangatanaa tI AaQaIca puZcaa ivacaar krto kI " Aaš ha good job krt naahIyaoÊ Asa krayaca nasat " vagaOro. iknvaa " to birds Gaabarlao naahIt %yaanaI ivacaar kolaa AaiNa sagaLo ekdma ]Dalao " AXaI conclusions tI kaZto. kQaI prt gaÜYTIt tiger Aalaa AaiNa mhNaalaa maI tulaa KaNaar tr to %yaa vaaGaacao natural behavior Aaho ho maaiht Asato.

malaa vaaTto BaartIya gaÜYTI GyaaÊ paiXcamaa%ya GyaaÊ iknvaa naohmaIcyaa AayauYyaatlao p`sanga Gyaa ³Aaš Aaja skUla maQyao Ama@yaanao tma@yaalaa ZklalaÊ %yaanao Asa ka kolaÆ ´ maulaancyaa sanvaodnaXaIla manaat baáyaaca Xanka yaotatÊ AapNa maulaanbarÜbarcyaa sanvaadamaQaUna %yaacaa yaÜgya tÜ pirNaama ksaa saaQatÜ ho savaa-t mah%vaacao Aaho.


Rangy
Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

rcanaaÊ tuJao ho pÜsT maaJao Taklyaanantr paihlao. anyway maaJyaa AnauBavaatUna ek gaÜYT share kravaIXaI vaaTto kI inadana maaJyaa maulaIlaa jar ]dahrNao do}na $pk vaap$na eKadI gaÜYT / saUcanaa idlaI tr to itlaa jaast pTt AaiNa laxaathI rhat. kQaI kQaI to p`aNyaaMca ]dahrNa Asaola tr kQaI itcyaa friends ca tr kQaI " Aaš CÜTI hÜtI tovha Asa Jaala hÜt........ "

Limbutimbu
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 2:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

>>>>> [t,@yaa lahana vayaaMcaI maulao ho Épk Gao Xakt naahIt}
rcanaa tuJa ho vaa@ya vaacalyaavar ek xaNaBar manaat ivacaar camakuna gaolaa kI Aro Aaja yaovaZo maÜzo Jaalyaavar trI pncatn~ iknvaa [saapinatI vagaOro Épka%mak gaÜYTI AapNa samajauna Gaovau XaktÜ ka² maaJao ]<ar naaih Asao Aaho² baaikcyaanca zava naahI
tumaca caalauVaÊ maI jaatajaata saucala to ilaihla


Atul
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

malaa Asao vaT\to kI AaPlyaalaa lahana pNaI pncat~ AavaDlao iknvaa baÜQapr vaaTlao mhNajao Aaplyaa maulaaMnaa pNa to AavaDola ikMvaa tI pNa tovZ\yaaca caivanao %yaa gaÜYTI eoktIla AaXaI Aapo@Xaa krNao cauikcao Aaho. Aaplyaa lahana piNa AapNa p~\yaacyaa KoL\NyaanXaI doiKla majaonao KoLayacaÜ m*NaUna hllaIcaI maulao pNa KoL\tIla Aasao mhNata yaoNaar naahI. pncat~a%lyaa pa~anpo@Xaa hillacaI maulao ]dhNaa-qa- iDij,nalanD\cyaa ÔnTaj,maIk saar#yaa gaÜXTIinXa lavakr AaiNa sahja samarsa hÜtIla. %yaanaa pnctn~atlyaa gaÜiYTnpo@Xaa qaÜD\yaa navyaa ‘tn~ancaa’ vaapr kÉna baÜQapr gaÜXTI sangata yaotIla. pncatn~caaca ³š´ Aaga`h QarNyaat kaih Aqa- naahI. mhNaUna pnca~n~ ³š´ vaa[T Asao tr mauLIca mhNata yaoNaar naahI
cau.Bau.Va.Gyaa.


Abhishruti
Monday, August 01, 2005 - 4:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

rcanaaÊ rngaI AaiNa [tr ima~maOi~NaIÊ
maulaanaa kuzlaIhI gaÜYT samajaavaUna saangaNao saÜpo naahI ho tr i~kalaabaaiQat sa%ya Aaho. AaiNa %yaanaa kuzlyaap`karo kuzlaI gaÜYT Cana samajaola ho AašvaiDlaanaaca XaÜQauna kaZava laagatMM. saQyaa TIvhI var [t@yaa ihnsak gaÜYTI maula phatat pNa %yaamauLo p`%yaok maulaacyaa manaavar yaacaa vaašT pirNaamaca hÜtÜ Asao naahI. Aajaubaajaulaa kaya kaya caangalavaašT GaDt to %yaanaa ijatk lavakr samajaola ittk caangalaca Aaho. AaiNa yaa gaÜYTI %yaanaI itsaáyaalaa ivacaaÉna %yaacaI caukIcaI iknvaa caukIcyaa p`karo maaihtI GaoNyaapoxaa tI %yaanaa vaoLÜvaoLI AapNaca idlaolaI barI² jara ivaYayaantr hÜtya pNa jasa maulaMM TInaojar hÜNyaaAaQaI kuzlaahI rÜma^nTIk saIna phatanaa ‘ho GaaNa Aaho tU phayaca naahIsa’ ho saangaNa caukIca Aaho tsaca ]gaIca p`%yaok gaÜYTIlaa ‘ihnsak’ ‘AXlaIla’ ‘GaaNa’ Asa k^T^gara[Ja krNahI caukIca Aaho. maaJaa maulagaa saha vaYaa-caa AahoÊ tÜ lahanapNaapasauna A^naImala Pla^naoTÊ iDskvhrI (a ca^nalsa vartI vaašlD laašÔ AgadI AavaDInao phatÜ pNa tÜ svaBaavaanao AitXaya kÜmala AahoÊ Aijabaat Da^imanaoiTnga iknvaa maarkuTa naahI.
ta%pya-.. kuzlyaahI gaÜYTIba_la AtI ivacaar k$ nayao. [t@yaa vaYaa-cyaa maaJyaa AnauBavaanantr Asa laxaat Aalaya kI baáyaaca gaÜYTI kaLavar AaiNa inasagaa-var saÜDlyaatr kama saÜpo hÜto.

BTW maaJaI maÜ{I maulagaI TInaojar Aaho.


Aschig
Friday, August 05, 2005 - 7:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

In general, any story that has a "moral" should not be told. It tries to cast the world in black-and-white. If you do this, then such-and-such happens. It paints a rather deterministic picture.

Animals are not cunning. They kill only for food or perhaps if they are threatened. While understanding of food chains and hierarchy is important, "crulety" for the sake of it as depicted is deploarble (just as voilence in children's cartoons is). It is not true that children are not affected by the voilence. Children are less likely to help conservation of nature if they are told of animals killing humans. animal-animal interaction stories are less likely to have such an effect.

When you read a book (or are narrated a story), your brain is reconstructing the pictures. When you see it on TV/computer, all imagination is taken out of it. That is the reason why most people do not like movies that are based on books if they have read the book (and it is a good one).

My advice: tell them stories without morals. Let them decide what to take out of it. Tell them stories that will employ their imagination. Let them keep guessing what is it that the story is trying to tell them. That will help them develop much better. If you tell stories from aesop, panchatantra, don't just edit them, but modify them. Add a personal touch. Show them the world that others can not. And let them create their own.

Vikas_chaudhari
Friday, August 05, 2005 - 7:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I agree with ashish. maaJyaa maulaIlaa it 3 ­ 4 vaYaa-McaI Asatanaa saÜnyaacaM AMD doNaaáyaa kÜMbaDIcaI gaÜYT saaMigatlaI AaiNa ivacaarlaM ik moral of the story is? it mhNaalaI
"Never cut a Hen" :-)

Chyayla
Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 3:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

हा BB आजच वाचला, रचना चा मुद्दा पन्चतन्त्रातल्या हिन्सा, क्रोर्य हा आहे, पण आता ईकडची मुल, लोक प्रत्यक्ष जीवनात मान्साहार करतातच किनई मग त्यात ते कोम्बडी, डुकर, गाय खातातच मग त्याना त्यात हिन्सा नाही का वाटत?... सहज वाटुन गेल म्हणुन लिहिले.

बाकी योग्य वयात योग्य गोष्टी सान्गाव्या हे म्हणण एकदम पटल. व सान्गणार्यावर बरेच काही अवल्म्बुन आहे, मला आज पर्यन्त असा विचारही मनात नव्हता आला की पन्चतन्त्र मुळे हिन्सा आणी क्रोर्याची भावना येते.


Aaftaab
Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 5:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

माझ्या मुलीला सुद्धा भारतात येण्याआधी US मधले PBS Kids, Noggin, Nick Junior वगैरे channels खूप आवडत होते कारण त्यात हिंसा वगैरे नव्हतीच.. disney चेही बरेच cartoons एकदम soft असतात. e.g. PBS kids Little Bear, Seseame Street, Between the Lions, Zooboomafoo, Clifford the big red dog, Dora the explorer, Blues Clues, Winnie the Pooh etc.. इथे आल्यानंतर cartoon network मध्ये एकदम हिंसक programs बघून धक्काच बसला..
पण आणखी एक गोष्ट आहे. Disney programs, Warner brothers' Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry वगैरे have lot of violence. They also show kisses etc. e.g. a female cat wearing a lot of make up and how Tom cat's eyes pop up suddenly after seeing her etc... I feel even that is a bit too much for young kids..

पंचतंत्राबद्दल असे वाटते की त्या गोष्टी थोड्या मोड्या मुलाना सांगाव्यात.. लहान मुलाना चिमणी, कावला, ससा कासव वगैरे गोष्टी बर्‍या..

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