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Shonoo
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I would have thought 'vyutapatii shastra' is etymology.

On the same lines then. what is the exact meaning
of 'vyutpanna' as in the 'vyutpanna brAhmaN jo
nehemi eka aatpaaT nagarAt rAhato'

Jaganbua
Tuesday, November 24, 1998 - 6:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Shonoo,
you are right. vyutpattee haach shabd fitt aahe. aataa malaa jaraa vyutpannamati yaawar Doke khaajawu det.

Jay
Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

shonoo
Yes I guess 'vyutpatti' hach achook shabda ahe. 'vyutpanna' brAhmaN yacha sandarbhavaroon kahi artha lagato ahe ka? Mhanaje goshteet yacha sandarbha kasa lagato ahe? I am just curious as I haven't heard of this word in this context before. (Bahudha Satyanarayanachya kathet ha yeto ka?)

Jaganbua
Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

wagaire yaa shabdaachaa ugam maahitee aahe kaa re kuNaalaa. hindee madhye suddhaa wagairaa wagairaa mhaNataatach paN aadhee a.NDe kee aadhee ko.mbaDee?

parat hindee madhye suddhaa to sa.skrtaatun aalaa nasaNaarach mhaNaje punhaa urdu chee paaLemuLe ghusaleech kee.

Jaganbua
Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vyaa haa bhaashechaa nidarshak dhaatu aahe ase waaTate. pahaa:

vyaakaraN grammer
vyaaghaat oxymoron

ityaadee.

aaNi utpatti mhaNaje nirmitee he tar bahuteka.naa maahitee aahech. aataa he don shabd jar ekatra kele tar bhaashechee nirmitee asa vachyaarth nighatoch. tyaachaa jar bhaawaarth, 'shabdaache nirmaaN' asa manlaa tar wishesh tarkbha.ng ho.u naye.

Meera
Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Jaganbua,

Chandra sampoorna nyoonhin rahu naye mhaNoon tyAchyAwar ek "galbot" asalyAchi kavikalpanA tumhAla mAhit aselach. Tya kavikalpanechi malA
tumchya "10:59AM"chya "posting"waroon AthawaN jhali ahe!--

"Vyutpatti", "VyAkaraN", "VyAghAt" hyA sagalyA shabdA.madhale achook upapada "Vya" nasoon "Vi" ase Ahe! "Vi-utpatti", "Vi-AkaraN", "Vi-AghAt" hya jodshabdA.madhe swaranche sandhi houn te shabda tayAr jhAle Ahet!

Ti tumchi chhoti chook bajulA rAhu dyAt. Tumche dnyAnabhANdAr asAdhAraN khAs Ahe!

Rhul
Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vik-shipt ya shbdacha arth tarewaik,todsa vedser asa ka getat. tasa arth lawane ajibat chuk aahe.
shipth manje vikurlele . tyala vi ha pratya-a lawala ki ektra karne ,ekwatane asa artha hoto. yacha artha vikshipt mansache chitta vichar ekwatlele astat.man ekagra aste.asa khara artha barobar watato.

Meera
Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

MarAThi bolaNAri "ashikshit" mANse kAhi kAhi shabda wApartAt te "shikshit" mANse sahasA wAparat nAhit. UdAharaNArtha "khoop" hyA arthi "ashikshit" mANse "lai" hA shbda wApartAt.

"Ashikshit" ANi "shikshit" hyA donhi MArAThi-bhAshikAnchya MarAThiche mooL arthAt ekach Ahe: Sanskrut/PrAkrut, FArsi, (KAnadi), wagaire. Ase asoonahi war mhatalelA jarAsA bhed kasA kAy astitwAt AlA asAwA?? "Lai" hyA shabdAche mooL ughadpaNe kuthalyAtari Sanskrutetar bhAshet Ahe. PaN "Shikshit"Anchi bhAshA prAmukhyAne Sanskrutodbhawa Ahe ase mhaNAwe tar "khoop" hyA shabdAche mooLadekhil Sanskrutetarach Ahe! Mag "shikshit" mandaLi "lai"sArakhe shabda wAparaNe jarA tALat kA asAwit? (MAjhe he kutuhal fakta "bauddhik" Ahe. MhaNaje "lai"sArakhe shabda wAparNari mANse kuThalyAhi prakAre "kami" darjAchi Ahet asa wichAr mAjhyA manAt ajibAt nAhi!! Khare mhaNaje kititari "ashikshit" mANse ApalyA manAchA "susanskrutpaNA" tathAkathit "shikshita".npekshA khoopach chAngalA dAkhawtAt!)
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MalA Anakhi ek wegaLe moThThe gooDha Ahe te ase:

ShiwAji.nchyA kALi te aNi itar sAmAnya mANse ji MArAThi bolat asat ti MarAThi arthAt sadhyAchyA MarAThihoon khoopach wegaLi ("juni") Ahe. PaN ase asoonahi Sant TukArAmAnchyA abhangA.mmadhali MarAThi bhAshA mAtra agadi Adhunik Ahe. Te kase kAy?????? MAjhyA hyA moThThyA prashnAche uttar jo koNi malA miLawoon deil tyA AsAminchi mi sadiawa upakrut rAhin! (Ek gammat mhaNaje Sant TukArAmAnchyA nidAn ekA abhangAt "lai" hA shabda Ahe! ArthAt ek shakyatA nehamich Ahe ti ashi ki Sant tukArAmAnchyA nAwe asalele kAhi kAhi abhang wAstawikapaNe koNi tari dusaryaAnech lihilele asatil. Tase koNi kA karel hA ek gooDha prashnach ahe, paN jagAt ashA kAhi kAhi agamya goshti ghaDAt asatAt hehi khare!)

Mahavirk
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Meera,

tuzya pahilya prashnawishayi...

Actually, it should be posted in General...

tuzya prashnAtil ashikshit lok ji bhAshA wAparatAt ti mukhyat: khedyAt bolali jAte. tasech, tyatil sagLe shabda he apabhra.nsh zalele nAhit. asAch ek shabda mhaNaje "lai".

Boli bhashetil asAch ANakhi ek interesting shabda hAngi te, mhaNaje "ho tech".
e.g.:
ekhadya dukAnAt gelyawar baryAch vastu.nmadhoon ek vastu niwaDAyachi Ahe. teva, ApaN boTane dakhawato... an dukAndArane tyach vastula hAt lAwalA tar ApaN mhaNato "ho tich"/"ho tech", i.e. "hAngi te".

mahavir.

Parshuram
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ma.nDaLee,

kripyA khAleel shabdA.nche arth havet.kadAcheet mAze postings baryAch vishyAt aaDhLel,paN liheetA-vAchtAnA he shabda kAtyA sArkhe manAlA Tochat astAt.tumchyA sArkhyA mAtabbar m.nDaLee.nchA thoDA upyog karoon ghyAvA heech gareebAchee vichchA!!

sArdhamya, vyAsa.ng, vishaNN, vya.njan

aabhAr

Jaganbua
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

saadharmya mhaNaje similarity

vyaasa.ng mhaNaje knowledge of a particular discipline in extreme detail, [what you achieve by doing a literature survey before choosing the topic for your PhD thesis. supposedly ;-)]

vishaNN mhaNaje morose, melancholie, but morose melancholie are pervading moods, whereas vishaNN is an induced state almost of a shock, from a bad news etc.

vya.njan mhaNaje consonent

Parshuram
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jaganbua,

aabhAree aahe......tumchee vishYA-chee hAtALNee nakkich kautakAspad aahe......I generally like to drop in and hear your conversation....maskA mArat naahee...khare sA.ngtoy....bhavishyAt punhA tasdee ghyAl hee prAmANeek apekshA bAlgoon punhA ekda aaple aabhAr mAnoo ichchito

namra,

paresh

Parshuram
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jaganbua,

aabhAree aahe......tumchee vishYA-chee hAtALNee nakkich kautakAspad aahe......I generally like to drop in and hear your conversation....maskA mArat naahee...khare sA.ngtoy....bhavishyAt punhA tasdee ghyAl hee prAmANeek apekshA bAlgoon punhA ekda aaple aabhAr mAnoo ichchito

namra,

paresh

Meera
Friday, December 04, 1998 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Paresh,

Tumhi kAhi weLa MatherAnchyA "echo point"war wagaire kuthe tari ubhe rAhun bolat asAwet ase disate. WegwegaLyA weLi dondA TumchyA ekA bolNyAchA lagech pratidhwani aiku AlA mhanoon tashi shankA mAjhyA manAt Ali.

Warache ugich Aple gammatine lihile. KAhi weLa ekach chiththi chukoon dondA kA "chikatate" he malA mAhit Ahe.

Parshuram
Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 6:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ma.nDaLee,

kAl "sakhi" hyA sha.na navre.nchyA pustakAt barech shabd mAzya nAjuk me.ndushee hAtApAI karoon gele.mhaNje,kuThe jakham zAlee nAhee,paN chuTpuT lagoon rAhilee.tar,punhA ekda aaplee madat havee Ahe.

vidh,
vasan(ref.reshmee vasan-does it mean cloth,shelter)
saira.ndhree
sArdhamya(mAgchyA veLis jaganbua.nee sAdharmya-baddal lihile hote)

Meera,

nAhee ho....mAtherAn vagaire kAhee nAhee...December-chyA tha.nDeet Panorama Point-var jAoon echo karNyA-evDha mee nakkich houshee nAhee.......ekhAde gANe LP record-var sui aDaklyAne hote tase thoDe zAle khare....aatA tey tumchyA sArkhyA thor, jANkAr, prathibhAva.ntA.nnee samjoon ghyAyche nAheetar kuNee?

namra,
Paresh

Parshuram
Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 6:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maaf karA ,

punhA lihAve lAgat aahe.Jaganbua.nee vya.njan mhaNje consonent ase lihile hote(Dec 4,12:31)...hey "consonent" mhaNje kAy....bahudA mAze ingrajeehee sAmAnya asAve..taree kripyA tasdee gheNe....mee hey lihiNya-agodar ingrajee shabdkosh pAhilA hotA.....consonent aaDhaLle nAhee....bahudA shabdkosh hee sAmAnya hota....pAmrAlA padree ghyA......

Jaganbua
Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

are vowels aaNi consonent ashe aksharaa.nche don prakaar asataat naa tyaatle consonent. tyaalaach aapaN deshaat swar aaNi vya.njan mhaNato.

mhaNaje a aa i ee......a: he saare swar aahet mhaNaje uchchaar karataanaa kewaL phuphusaa.nchaa bhaatyaa saarkhaa upyog karun he swar nirmaaN hotaat ase sthulmaanaane mhaNu.

ka kha ....jnya he saare vya.njan mhaNun maanle jaataat aaNi uchchaarataanaa jibh, daat, TaaLu wagaire.nchyaa madatee shiwaay jamat naahee. arthaat yaalaa apawaad mhaNaje ha he akshar, paN tajnya saa.ngtaat kee yaachaa uchchaar sudhaa phuphusaatlee hawaa na waaparataa poTaa paasoon hawaa war Dhakalalee gelee paahije.

jaaoo de re, he shaashtra barech june aahe hallee kuNee hee tase bolat nasaNaar, mee ekadaa prayatna karaawaa mhaNun ha ha ase poTaa psoon mhaNaaylaa gelo tar shewaTee aai ne aatoon wicharale kee kaay re haLdee che dudh paahije kaa, ghasaa bighaDalaa kaay? mag mee to naad soDun dilaa

Meera
Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Jaganbua, tumache nashib chAngale mhaNoon tumhi "hA hA" asA hAhAhkAr kelyAnantar tumchyA AainA tumchA ghasA bighadalA ki kAy ashi shankA Ali. GhashA-aiwaji tumche DOKE bighadalyAchi tyAnA shankA Ali asati tar prasanga kathiN TharalA asatA!
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Paresh, "consonent" ha shabda Ingraji shabdakoshAt na pahAatA "consonant" hA shabd tumhi pAhilAat tar to tumhAlA tithe nakki sApadel.

Jaganbuanni mAhiti sundar ritine wishad keli Ahe.

Parshuram
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jaganbua,

consonent-che continental vivechan zAle,pAn mAze vareel shabdA.nche matitArth(hope this is not a off-swing)ekA bAjulA kopryAt rAhile.....mhaNje, vidhdh, vasan, saira.ndhree,sArdhamya.mAhit aslyAs kripyA jaroor kaLavNe.

meera,

typo durustee-baddal aabhAr.paDtALoon pahAto.

Jaganbua
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

meera,

mudraa raakshasaachyaa Dulakyaa.nbaddal kshamaa asaawee.

majhe Doke bighaDlyaachaa sa.nshay yeNyaache kaahee karaNach nawhate naa. muLaat aamchyaa maatoshree.nee aamhaalaa Doke aahe he kadhee maanyach kele naahee te.nwhaa tyaa sa.ndarbhaat sha.nkaasuraachaa taap tyaa.naa kadhee jhaalaa naahee.

paresh,

vidhda mhaNaje jakhmee, ghaayaaL lalit lekhak haa shabd preyasee chyaa kaTaakshaane vidhda jhaalelaa naayak asaa waapartaa.naa distaat

vasan mhaNaje vastra, kapaDe, ityaadee

saira.ndhree he naaw draupadee che aahe. viraaTaachyaa raaNee washyaat ajnyaatwaasaat asataa.naa tee sau.ndarya sallaagaar hotee.

saadharmya mhaNaje similarity

Rhul
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jaganbua
mala gondalat takley. amrut madhe mudra rakshsacha
vinod ani upasampadakan -yanchya dulkya ase aahe ki yaulat.

Jaganbua
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

amrut madhye tu waachalele barobar hote. maajhaa nirdesh spell check rakshasaa kaDe hotaa.

Meera
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

"ShAljoditale mAraNe" hyA wAkprachArAchA ugam kashAt Ahe hyAbaddal malA kutuhal Ahe.

Abhar.

Parshuram
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Jaganbua,

AplyA uttarA-baddal (Dec 5,4:38) punhA ekda AbhAr....paN,ApaN mAzya "sArdhamya" hyA shabdA-aivajee "sAdharmya" hyA shabdA-chA arth dusroo.nda sA.ngeetlA aahe.....kA "sArdhamya" is a anagram of "sAdharmya"?.....ApaN upasthit ma.nDaLee.nchyA pratyek prashNAlA jAgrooktene uttar det AhAt hyA-chee mee no.nd ghet Ahe....

Meera
Sunday, December 06, 1998 - 8:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Sandarbha: (1) Rhul 12/3 6:57AM ANi (2)Shonoo 11/24 6:14AM.

"Vikshipt": HA shabda Sanskrutmadhun MarAThit jasAchyA tasA AlA Ahe. PaN Sanskrutmadhe tyA shabdAlA MarAthitalA "tarhewA.eek, kinchit wedsar" hA artha nasoon "gondhaLoon gelelA (mANus)" asA artha Ahe. (MarAThit to artha badalalelA Ahe. Tase kAhi kAhi welA hot asate!) "Vikshipt"cha SanskrutmadhalA dusara artha ANi "Kshipt" hyA (Sanskrut) shabdAchA artha, he donhi ekach Ahet: "Vikhuralele". (SanskrutamadhalA "Vi" hA prattyaya gamatichA Ahe. KAhi weLA tyA prattyayAne shabdAchA artha ulatato, kAhi weLA mooL artha ANakhich jorakas hoto, tar kAhi weLa fArsA badalat nAhi!)

JAtAjAtA: "Vikhuralele" hyA shabdAche mooL "vikru" hyA Sanskrut dhAtut Ahe (ANi "vikru"toon udbhawalelA "vikeerNa" hA Sanskrut shabda MarAThitahi jasAchyA tasA wAparNyat yeto.)

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"Vyutpanna" ANi "Vyutpatti" hyA donhi shabdAnchi "vyutpatti" "vyutpad" hyA ekAch Sanskrut dhAtumadhe Ahe! "Vyutpanna" mhaNaje Ingrajit "derived" tar "Vyutpatti" mhaNaje "derivation, kinwa etymology".

"Vyutpanna"la "widwAn" asAhi ek artha Ahe!

(UdAharNArtha, Meera mahAn vyutpanna Ahe!)

Milya
Monday, December 14, 1998 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Suresh Wadkaranche ek gane ahe.
Lambodara tuzha shobhe 'Shudarand'(asach kahitari shabda ahe)To nemka kay ahe mahit ahe ka? ani asel tar tyacha exact artha kay?
Mazhyamate to sondeshi sambandhit asa shabda asava

Meera
Monday, December 28, 1998 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


'saaMgata' (a saamaanyanaamaacaa naomaka Aqa- kaya Aaho to kaoNaI malaa saaMgaU Xakola ka
?
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(saaMgata ka kuNaI majalaa Aqa- 'saaMgata' Xabdacaa?)

Shonoo
Monday, January 04, 1999 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

'saangataa' mhnaje samaapti. ekhaadyaa sameelanaachi kinvaa adhiveshanachi saangataa hote.

yathaa saang madhlyaa 'saang' che aNi saangataa
che kahi tari naate asaave. paN te nakki kaay te kuNaas Thaauk ?

Rhul
Tuesday, January 05, 1999 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kishore
tu jar marathit bhoutik shastra shikala asa shil ter visthapan manje diplacement it is scalar term it has magnitude but not direction

Jaganbua
Wednesday, January 06, 1999 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Milya,

to shabd "shu.NDada.ND" asaa asaNyaachee shakyataa kitpat aahe? kaaraN asaa asel tar saraL so.ND asaa arth neeT ghetaa yeto.

Milya
Wednesday, January 06, 1999 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Jaganbua,
Malahi 'Shundadand' cha vatato. pan gane eikatana 'ra' cha uchar kelay ase mala tari vatate. mhanunach kunala exact shabda mahit ahe kay?

Kishore
Wednesday, January 06, 1999 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Rhul Dhanyawad.
Mala "Durapastha" ya shabdacha nemaka artha kuni sangel ka...?

Shonoo
Wednesday, January 06, 1999 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Kishore :
if you mean 'duraapaasta' not 'thaa' then it menas difficult. as in 'suTTichyaa divasaat naatakaachi tikiTe miLaNe duraapaast asate'.

Hope this helps

Kishore
Thursday, January 07, 1999 - 5:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Dhanyawad Shonoo....

"Avachit" va "anishta" ya cha artha kay ahe.

Shonoo
Thursday, January 07, 1999 - 1:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Kishore:
avachit mhaNje achanak, sahaj - usually manaat aalelaa vichaar vagaire.
anishTa is opposite of ishT( jyachi iccha aahe te)
unwanted, ( troubles, difficulties etc)

Mahavirk
Friday, January 08, 1999 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kishore,shonoo:

avachit chA ANakhi ek arhta Ahe aaga.ntuk.
one more thing... aapalyala have asalele shabda/mAhiti dilelya vibhAgAt (e.g. ka kha ga gha..) post keli tar bare hoil. mhaNaje nantar "shodh" gheNe sope hoil.



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