Moderator_4 (Moderator_4) Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 1:58 pm:      hava_hawai: namaskar roopatai ! roopadharap: namaskaar namaskar! hava_hawai: tumhi swatahacha bahumullya wel kadhun hitguj ganeshotsavasathi amhala mulakhat detay tyabaddal sarva pratham tumche abhar. ha ek prakare tumcha sanmanach ahe! oops aapla aamcha sanmanach ahe ki tumchya sarkhya sarjanshil kavyitrichi amhala mulakhat milali ! roopadharap: kascha kascha hava_hawai: tase mala tumhala mojkech prashna vicharayche ahet. teva ata jasta wel na dadavta surwat karuyat. roopadharap : ho, kara surwat hava_hawai: mala tumcha sarvat jasta kautuk vatta te mhanje tumhi swatahawar keleli tika farach lightly gheta. he kase jamte tumhala? ka tumhala tee tika ahe tech kalat nahi? mhanje asa bagha kujbuj chya sampadika bai tumchi evdi ninda nalasti kartat tyacha tumhala dukkha hot nahi ka? aho kuthe tee tuccha lekhika ani kuthe tumhi mahan kavyitri! roopadharap: tasa pahayala gela ( mhanje kasa? te naka vicharu ) tar mala dukkha nahi hot...karan mhanatat na nindakache ghar asave shejari... hava_hawai: mhanje tya sampadika tumchya shejari rahtat? roopadharap: nahi nahi shejari rahat nahit pan tasha tya mazya changlyach olkhichya ahet karan amhi ekach mhanaje "uDu" gatatalya ahot hava_hawai: mazya nahi lakshat ala neet ulgadun sanga na. roopadharap: mhanaje bagha. tee kavlee ahe ani me chimni mhanun "uDu" hya ekach shakhechya amhi ahot tyamule tee je kay bolte tyacha mala vishesh dukkha hot nahi..ani tasahi kavlyanchya shapani gayi kay chimnyahi marat nastat! roopadharap: ani tasach tichi poat shakha hee "uDu-pi" ahe tyamule peun tee kay bolte te ticha tilahi kalat nahi. hava_hawai: are wa, hee agadi navinach mahiti sangitlit tumhi. hava_hawai: bara ata apan mul mulakhatikade valu mala sanga ki tumhi kavita keva pasun kartay? agadi janmala alyapasun ki hitgujwar alyawar itkya kavita baghun tumhala kavita lihaychi sursuri ali? mhanje he me ashasathi vichartey ki kahi lok jatyach kavi astat..mazya olkhiche ek kavi ahet te janmala ale tevapasun kavita kartat. thamba tumhala tyanchi pahili wahili kavitach aikavte tyaaa tyaa tyaaa vyaa vyaa vyaa bhyaa bhyaa bhyaa tyaaaaannnhhhyyaaaaa! agadi kashi aatun aleli kavita vatte nai? manusshyachya jeevanacha je mahan sattya ahe te agadi pot-tidkini ani mojkya shabdat ulgadun dakhavla ahe roopadharap: agadi agadi! aajkal asha arthapoorna kavita kwachitach baghayla miltat. hava_hawai: aso tar tumhi asha janmajaat kavayitri ahat ki ..... roopadharap: tasa maze aai-baba mhanatat ki me pahila shabda uchharala toch "kavita" ha hota.....ani agadi janmalyapasun nahi tari 5 vi - 6 vi pasun me kavita karate aahe.... pan hitguj var maza ha rog jast baLavala! hava_hawai: mhanje kavita ha rog ahe he tumhala mannya ahe tar! roopadharap: kavita ha ek atishay bhayankar asa sansargajanya rog aahe hava_hawai: agabai ! tumchyapasun doorach rahayla pahije mag roopadharap: kavinchya war jasta tika keli tari ha rog lagto hehi dhyanat ghya hava_hawai: are baapre, pan mag hyawarcha upay kay? roopadharap: hyavaracha upaay ekach.... charolyancha sagala BB gheri yeiparyant vachun kadhane! roopadharap: mhanaje, shevatparyant vachat gelaat tar tumhala aapoaapach gheri yeil ni mug tumhala ekdum thakava janavel aani vatel....ki sagalyannai sagalya kalpana aadhich mandalya ahet. teva aapan navin kavita lihu nayet! hava_hawai: kaay sangta kay? mhanje charolyanmule gheri yete? mag lagna na zalelya mulinni vachaylach nakot nahi ka charolya? ugach lokanche gairsamaj vayche! hava_hawai: bara ani me asa aikla hota ki ati charolya vachlya ki 9 mahinyanni apoaap navin kavita janmala yete. tuymhala kay vatta? kavita kharach ashi hote (mhanje balantpanasarkhi) ki sweater vinavi tashi ek (shabda) ulta ani ek sulta asa yamak julvat banvavi lagte? roopadharap: charolya vachalya ki kavita hote ki nahi mahiti nahi pan charoli matra nakki hote aani ti pan 9 minitaat ani kavita karayala ra la ta kashala julavayala hava? tumhi navakavyabaddal vicharat asal tar yamak julvaycha prashnach yet nahi ! hava_hawai: nahi nava kaviteshi tumcha kay sambandha? apan jun-kavvya baddalach bolyat roopadharap: mug theek ahe hava_hawai: tar mag kavita hote ki banvavi lagte? tumhi mul prashnala bagal deu naka. roopadharap: bara, tar kavitebaddal sangayacha tar kavita kadhihi banavavi laagat nahi... ti hotech!! agadi mul janmava tashi janmate! hava_hawai: kharach? mag balantpanacha ha anubhav agadi avarNaniya asel nahi? roopadharap: kaay vicharu naka. hava_hawai: tumhala tar sarkhyach hotat kavita..asha sarkhya balantpanani thakva nahi ka yet? roopadharap: thakava yeto na. far yeto. mhanun tar sadhya production band aahe! hava_hawai: mag tyawar kay upay karta? thakwa ghalvayla? roopadharap: upay mhanaje hitguj var jayachach nahi thode divas roopadharap: mhanaje kona dusaryachya kavita vachun inspire nako vhayala! hava_hawai: aho hitgujwar itkya kavita astat ki manus inspire vaychya aivaji tya vachun expire vaychi bhiti jasta vatte mala tar roopadharap: tasa hitguj var mhane kaahi lok made to order kavita pan detat!!! hava_hawai: mag tumhi nahi ka banvat made tu order kavita? roopadharap: halli nahi. kadhikali banavalya hotya.... hava_hawai: mag barech paise milavle astil hya dhandyat nahi ka? roopadharap: aho, kasale paise ni kasala kaay. loka kevde paise budavtat. ti "diary doghanchi" lihinaari baya..... hava_hawai: ticha kay zala? roopadharap: tine mazyakadun ek kavita lihun ghetali ashich tichya goshtit ghaalayala ani mug ji gayab zalya ti disalich nahi parat. paise nahit ni kahi naahi hava_hawai: khara ki kay? aikava te navalach! roopadharap: mug kaay tar! hava_hawai: tee nakki gayab kashani zali ho? mhanje kavita aiklyamulech tar gayab nahi zali? i mean expire zali! roopadharap: nasavi. karan to lekh chhapeparyant tari jivant hoti ti hava_hawai: bara asude. ticha kahi ka hoina aaplyala kay. dev tichya atmyas sadbuddhi devo...aapla shanti deo hava_hawai: ata pudhcha prashna roopadharap: vichara hava_hawai: tumhi farach premal ahat. kayam prem, prembhanga hya varti kavita karat asta. tar adhi anDa ki adhi kombdi hya pramane adhi prem hote ni mag kavita..ki adhi kavita karta ani mag prem hote? roopadharap: nahi nahi.....tasa nahiye te. prem vagaire cha tasa kaahi sambandhach naahi ithe. tee sarva imagination aste. hava_hawai: oh..mala aapla vatla hota ki adhi prem hot asel ani mag balantpan........kavitancha! roopadharap: aho, kavita he tar mazya shabdanvarachya premache phal aahe hava_hawai: pan hya itkya sarya falancha ata fruit salad banla ahe asa nahi ka vatat tumhala? roopadharap: agadi assech vatale mala. mhanun tar aata hi phala....aapala..hya kavita, agadi aushadhachya matrepramane mojun takate aata hitguj var hava_hawai: wa wa kharach hitgujkaranchi evdi kalji karat asal tumhi asa vatla navta roopadharap: aani khara sangu ka..... hava_hawai: sanga na kharach sanga sagla..khota sangayala ka me mulakhat ghetiye tumchi roopadharap: prem ha kavitesathi chirantan vishay aahe. toch nasel tar anek kavi upaashi maratil ho hava_hawai: mhanje te kase? mhanje sarva kavi kavita vikun pot bhartat ka? roopadharap: sagale nahi me anek asa mhatla hava_hawai: pan kavitarupi he apattya hi kay vikaychi goshta aste? roopadharap: nahich muli. hava_hawai: bara ankhin sanga ki kavi ha balant hoto tar prasuti-vedana pan hotach astil nahi ka? roopadharap: hotat na hava_hawai: adhi hotat ki nantar? roopadharap: aadhich. karan ti hoiparyant hotat tya prasuti vedana roopadharap: nantar lok pratikriya detat. hava_hawai: tya adhik vedanadayak astat ka? roopadharap: nahi nahi tumhala kalnarach nahi ki hya kavitansathi kavinna kiti khasta khavya lagtat! hava_hawai: baapre kharach kiti kleshkarak ahe ho sagla...adhi prem kara..mag prasuti vedna..tyat facta khaycha kay tar khasta...mag kasabasa balant vaycha! ani evda karun lok kujbuj karnarach! roopadharap: ho na ho. aho nusti kujbuj kay. masika kadhtat ho amchya jeevavar! hava_hawai: mhanje tumhi ikde prasuti vedananni vivaltay ani tikde te tumchya jeevavar masika vikun paise milavtayat hyacha tumhala dukkha nahi ka hot? hya viruddha avaj uthavnyasathi kadhi ekhadi kavita nahi zali ka tumhala? roopadharap: nahi ho....ya vishayasathi je shabda suchatat tyavar maze bilkul prem nahi. mug kavita honar kashi? hava_hawai: barobar ahe tumcha hava_hawai: ata mala sanga ki hitgujwar tumhi aajkal ka yet nahi jasta? madhe tumhi jo ratib ghalat hota kavitancha to ka banda kelat? roopadharap: ata kaay sangayacha tumhala, aho shabdanvar prem karanyavachun itarahi udyog aahetach ki mala. hava_hawai: kay sangta kay? roopadharap: aho kavita vikta yet nahi tyamule potapanyapurati nokari karaavi lagate aani mug nokarichya dhakadhakit itaka damayala hota ki prem karayala velach milat nahi mug janm nahi ni sangopan tya hun nahi hava_hawai: sangopan kasla premacha, kavitecha ka swat:acha? roopadharap: tinhicha hava_hawai: mhanje tumhi eetransarkhe demand vadhli tar pani misalayche uddyog nahi ka karat? roopadharap: nahi nahi. kalakrutit bhesal? shakkyach nahi! hava_hawai: mhanje tumchya premasarkha tumchya kavitahi shuddha astat tar roopadharap: agadi agadi. prem shuddha asala tar kavitahi shuddhach asatil na hava_hawai: pan mag kay ho prem shuddha ahe ki nahi he olkhaycha kasa? roopadharap : lakshat ghya jya premacha phal hi ek shuddha kavita asate te prem mhanaje shuddha prem hava_hawai: he farach confusing ahe ho..mhanje shuddha prem olkhayla adhi shuddha kavita olkhaychi..tee mag mulat kashi olkhaychi? roopadharap: tumhi kombadi aadhi ki anda aadhi he kasa tharavata? tasach! hava_hawai: mala tar he prem mhanje ek shuddha murkhapana vattoy ! hava_hawai: aso, mala sanga shahahnya mansane premat padava ki padu naye? roopadharap: aho prem tharavun nahi hot hava_hawai: pan ase kiti lok astat te sarkhe premat padat astat. mhanje adhi " premat padtat" mag premat "padtat" mag parat premat padtat! he ase waranwaar premat padna changla ki vaeet? karan premat padla ki muka-maar basto! kharchatata ani kadhikadhi gambhir jakhma hotat nahi ka? roopadharap: nahi mazyamate ekach veli don vyaktinchya premat asana chuk. aani asa aahe, gambhir jakhama zalyach tar tyanvar funkar marayala punha navin prem asatach nuh. mhanun kadachit lok punha punha premat padat asavet hava_hawai: mhanje prem bhangachya kavita he adhichya premwar funker marna astat ka? roopadharap: tumhi punha confuse hotay aani parat mala confuse karataay aani sarvat mahattvacha mhanaje.. tumhi agadi ulata nishkarsha kadhatay hava_hawai: pan mag sulata nishkarsha kay ahe? roopadharap: to ha ki ekada premat maar basala ki tyavar funkar mhanun punha premat padava, he kharya ayushyatala zala.... shabda-premabaddal vicharaal tar tithe prembhang nasatoch......tithala prem nirantar asata hava_hawai: wah farach surekh! pan khara ausshya mhanje? khota ausshya kay asta? roopadharap: khotya ayushya......mhanaje virtual. tyatla prem te e-prem! roopadharap: e-premat tar kaay......ekach veli 3-4 prem prakarna pan chalatat hava_hawai: mhanaje?? eka lagnachya goshti lihinaryanni khote prem kele asa mhanaycha ki kay tumhala? roopadharap: chhe chhe te prem kharach. karan.....te eka vyaktibarobar suru zala ani tya vyaktipuratach maryadit rahila hawa_hawai : kharach pan netwar kiti soy ahe nahi ka hee, ki ekaweli 3-4 premprakarna chalu thevaychi. roopadharap: aho hyalach tar soyiskar prem mhantat. me hyawar kadhi kavita karavi asa vichar kartey. hava_hawai: nakki kara roopatai, mhanje tumcha balantpan pan soyiskar ritya hoil. roopadharap: agadi agadi hava_hawai: roopatai tumhi amhala kavitanbaddal jee kay maullyawan mahiti dilit tya mule hya kshetratlya baryach navin goshti amhala kalalya. hya baddal me tumche abhar mante. dhannyawad. roopadharap: dhannyawad!

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