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Mvelanka
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Paragkan, Ajay,


Pl ignore the 'undefined' message. It is the debug message, it will not harm your file. I shall remove it as soon as possible.

Pl save your html file with utf-8 format.
Try to open this html file in this dishaa itself (in another session afterwards may be) and see if it is shown properly. It should be shown.

I am using this dishaa for developing Unicode version of my site 'aDagaL'. Believe me, it does work fine.

If you can't see the newly generated html file in your browser (IE) directly, it is because you do not have the unicode devanagari font on your machine.(You can see it in dishaa because dishaa works on dynamic font)

You can have these fonts from here:

BBC's Hindi site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/popupwinenglish.html

(Save the hindi.exe on your machine and run. It will install the devanagari font Raghu and set it as default font for devanagari for your IE. You will need to restart the computer - they say.) Raghu font is not very beautiful, but it is okay and (free!)

While viewing your file in IE, set encoding to utf-8 (That is what you have generated your file with, didn't you?)


Paragkan
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 3:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I saved it in utf-8 format. It opened in dishaa.
Is it necessary to have unicode fonts in order to open the html file outside dishaa?

malaa ho farsaM samajat naahI. %yaamauLo kdaicat caukIcaa p`Xna ivacaarlaa AsaonahI. saaMBaaLUna Gyaalaca. :-)

Mvelanka
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 6:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


maIhI AakaXaatUna pDlaolaÜ naahI.

Whenever the browser opens any html file. It has to display all the stuff written it. It does it in sequence. It draws tables, fetches images and the like and paints them on the screen. When it comes to text, it reads it and wants to know how to paint these on the screen. It gets this information from the font. If the font specified in the html is not installed or if the font is not specified at all, then it will take this info from the default font specified to the browser.

Thus normally you donot bother about these details because these fonts (Times, courier and the like ) are there on all the machines and in the worst case there is some default font for Roman letters. Thus A always looks like A.

With devanagari fonts (Not unicode, the existing ones), devanagari letters are mapped to roman letters. Thus when you want to write say 'pra' what you actually write in your html file is maybe q or v or whatever specified in your desired font. And thus it is necessary for the reader to have the font on their machine so that this q or v or whatever is rendered as 'pra' as was required, because default font will be useless as it is Roman.

With unicode this problem is taken away. There is fixed coding for all the letters in the world. So if your reader does not have your font; but has some default font for your language, it is still okay. It will work.

Now the question is how to supply the font to the browser when it requires it. There are two ways 1.Download and install the font statically. or 2. supply it along with your html page dynamically.

So to give you a short answer, yes, the fonts 'ARE' required. You normally do not notice them because they 'ARE' there somewhere. You start thinking about them only when you do not have them.


Disclaimer: I am not a computer expert. I have used many terms non technically and even probably wrongly. Experts, pl excuse me.
Thanks


Saurabh
Friday, May 24, 2002 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aro idXaa vaap$na p`XnaicanhÊ ]d\gaaricanh vagaOro ilahayalaa kahI vaogaLo kravao laagatM kaÆ

Mvelanka
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Yes you are right.
This is only a temp. problem. I did not get much time to rectify it in the transliteration applet.
This is what you do to achieve anything other than basic letters:
Click on the button in the toolbar which toggles between "Dev" and "Eng". This will put the transliteration off, so that whatever you type will appear as it is (in roman). After you are done again go back to translit mode to type in Devanagari.

Again let me assure you that this is a temp problem, and will be fixed soon.

Thanks for your interest.

Saurabh
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


mahoXaÊ ek XaMka - maI idXaa vaap$na marazIt ek pana ilaihlaM Aaho. to ima maaJyaa pc var IE maQyao ]GaDlao ik vyavasqaIt idsatM. pNa toca page jaonvha maI maaJyaa school cya server var TaktÜ AaiNa maaJyaa website va$na phNyaacaa p`ya%na krtÜ tonvha to f> blank Aaho. Asao ka AsaavaoÆ


Mvelanka
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

idXaa AaiNa marazIt svaarsya Asalyaaba_la AaiNa to daKvalyaaba_la sava-p`qama Qanyavaad.
kahI gaÜYTIMcaa ]lagaDa Jaalaa naahI.
tumhI marazI pana ilaihlao. to tumacyaa pIsaI var vaacata yaoto mhNajao file://.... vagaOro yaUAarela AsaolaÊ naahI kaÆ
tumacyaa XaaLocyaa savh-rvar
pana kÜro idsato kI %yaavar Agamya majakUr idsatÜÆ

tumacyaa saašTcaa p<aa dota ka
http://.... AsaaÆ
maI toqao jaa}na pahtÜ.

ikMvaa tumacao to pana Xa@ya Asalyaasa malaa šmaolanao A^T^camaoMT mhNaUna pazvaa.
mvelanka@yahoo.com yaoqao




Vaatsaru
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXaÊ ek p`Xna
samajaaÊ ÔukTcyaa server var mhNajao Geocities vagaOro var vaobasaašT banavatanaa tI marazIt idsaU Xakola Asao kahI krta yaoto ka Æ mhNajao Dynamic Fonts na vaaprtahI Æ


thodkyaat prashna asaa aahe ki sagLe kaahI fukatche vaaparun marathi site banavane shakya aahe ka ?

Milindaa
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mi try kela hota. webstream cha software waparun marathi fonts install karata yetat geocities var. kiran ne mala tyacha font pan dila hota tyasathi. pan majhya case madhye te work jhale nahi.. mala pan marathi web pages banavayachi aahet, pan ajuntari jamala nahi :-(

in short, sarva kahi fukat karayala gela ki fukatacha tap pan hoto.. :-)

Vaatsaru
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

बरोबर आहे मिलिंदा तुझे पण काहीतरी मार्ग असेलच की आणि थोडेसे पैसे खर्च करायलाही मी तयार आहे :-)

Mvelanka
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

savh-r fukTcaa tap Aaho kI ivaktcao duKNaoÊ (avar farsao kahI AvalaMbaUna naahI.

AapNa banavalaolao pana marazIt ³dovanaagarIt´Asaola tr to tsaoca sagaL\yaaMnaa idsaola. %yaasaazI dÜna gaÜYTI laxaat zovalyaa paihjaot.

Xa@yata 1 ­ naohmaIcao manamaanaI kÜiDMgamaQalao dovanaagarI faÐT\sa ³iXavaajaIÊ sauroKÊ naš duinayaa vagaOro´
1. Aaplyaa panaat <font face="shivaji01"> Asao ilahayalaa hvao.
2. pana vaacaNaaáyaacyaa ba`a]Jarlaa to faÐT\sa vaacatanaa imaLayalaa paihjaot. ho dÜna p`karo krta yaoto. Dayana^imak ikMvaa [nsTa^lD faÐT\sa. varcao maaJao (avarcao p~ vaacaa.

Xa@yata 2. ³yauinakÜD vaap$na.´
1. Kasa faÐT na vaaprtaÊ nausato yauinakÜD dovanaagarIt ilahayacaoÊ mhNajao vaacaNaaáyaalaa to %yaacyaa iDfa^lT dovanaagarI faÐTmaQyao vaacata yaošla. ³%yaacyaakDo Asaa eKada iDfa^lT dovanaagarI faÐT Asaayalaa hvaa.´
2. (at AapNa eKada Kasa faÐT vaaprlaa Asaola tr tÜ <font face= > vagaOro k$na ilahayalaa hvaaÊ iXavaaya tÜ faÐT varIla dÜnhI p`karo vaaprta yaošla.

ho far gauMtagauMtIcao vaaTt Asalyaasa AapNa eKadI iXakvaNaI Gao} payarI payarInao. ekoka vaa@yaacao pana k$na eKaVa savh-rvar TakU. maa~ sauÉvaat tumacyaakDUna vhayalaa hvaI. tumhI sau$ kra AaiNa malaa ekok p`Xna ivacaara.

Saurabh
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 5:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXaÊ tulaa maola pazvalaI Aaho ro.

Mvelanka
Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 7:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

fašla yauinakÜD fa^ma^-TmaQyao saovh kolyaanao Asao Jaalao. tumacyaa ³AaiNa maaJyaahI´ savh-rlaa kdaicat AXaI fašla naIT hataLta AalaI naahI.
tIca fašla utf-8 maQao saovh k$na AplaÜD k$naÊ vaap$na baiGatlyaasa naIT idsato.
maI ]<ar pazvalao Aaho.

Vijaykumar
Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 7:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXaÊ
maI Aata IE5 cyaa jaagaI IE6 INSTALL kolyaavar navaa dIXaavatar idsau laagalaa Aaho.pNa saova kolyaavar internet option var jaa}na default font RAGHU8 caa Arial unicode set kolaa tr á*sva cao dIGa- hÜtat.dÜnhI font unicode Asauna Asao ksao hÜto.

ivajaya

Vaatsaru
Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXa
tumacao ‘idXaa’ vaaprlao ³Aqaa-t AaQaIpasaUnaca vaaprt hÜtÜ´ pNa naivana svaÉp AavaDlao
ek p`Xna
‘idXaa’ Stand Alone Ôa^ma- maQao vaaprta yaošla AXaI kahI saÜya Aaho ka Æ mhNajao Download krta yao] Xakola ka Æ


Mvelanka
Monday, June 17, 2002 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


ivajayakumaarÊ
Raghu8 AaiNa Arial Unicode (a dÜna inarinaraLo faÐT\sa Aahot. Arial Unicode maQyao kovaL mauLaxaroca Aahot. jaÜDaxaroÊ AQaI- Axaro va tI icatarNyaacao inayama tIt gaÜvalaolao naahIt.
Raghu8 maQyao sagaLo Aaho.
tumhI Asao kra
Tools -
Internet Options ..
Fonts ..
Asao kolyaavar fa^ÐT\sa inavaDayacaI ivaMDÜ idsaola. itcyaat Language script maQyao Devanagari isalao@T kra. Kalacyaa Davyaa ivaMDÜt tumacyaa kDcyaa dovanaagarI samajaNaaáyaa sagaL\yaa faÐT\sa idsatIla Arial unicode MS, Raghu8... vagaOro. %yaat Raghu8 isalao@T kraÊ AaiNa AÜko mhNaa. punha baahorcyaa ivaMDÜt AÜko mhNaaÊ kI Jaalao kama.


Mvelanka
Monday, June 17, 2002 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vaaTsa$Ê
idXaa ³navyaa sva$pat´ ecaTošmaola A^iPlakoXana Aaho. saQyaahI to Stand Alone ca Aaho. naahItr tumhalaa tumacyaa fayalaI vaacata ikMvaa ilaihta Aalyaa nasa%yaa. f> sauÉvaat krtanaa %yaalaa inarinaraL\yaa gaÜYTI laagatatÊ to %yaa vaogavaogaL\yaa izkaNaahUna ³AarMBaIca´ ]trvaUna Gaoto. AXaI pwt zovalyaanao %yaa saaáyaa gaÜYTIMmaQyao malaa yaÜgya %yaa sauQaarNaa vaoLÜvaoLI krta yaotat.

tumhI Asao kra.

ek dÜna Axaro ilahUnaÊ idXaa naIT sau$ Jaalao AXaI Ka~I kra AaiNa [MTrnaoT knao@Xana kaZUna Taka. idXaa vaaprNyaasaazI knao@XanacaI AavaXyakta pDNaar naahI.

Abhijit
Monday, June 17, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXaÊ malaa a.cvhenyoo Asao ilaihlao trÊ idXaa / maayabaÜlaI maQyao A^vhonyaU Asao idsatoÊ pNa IE maQyao e^vhonyaU Asao idsato Aaho. ( maI idXaa Aajaca vaaprayalaa iXaklaÜ AahoÊ AjaUna kahI AXaI variations AaZLlaI tr [kDo pÜsT krInaca. )

BTW, tumacao saa^FT\vaoAr ekdma Jakasa Aaho²

Mvelanka
Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

हा त्या त्या फॉंटचा प्रश्न आहे.
युनिकोडच्या कुठल्या तरी कागदावर ऍ हे अक्षर एॅ असे दिल्यामुळे सर्व फॉंट वाल्यांनी ते तसेच तयार केले.

कदाचित हिंदीत तसे लिहीत असावेत.

मी माझ्या दिशावरच्या फॉंटमध्ये ही दुरुस्ती केली आहे.
ही परिपूर्ण मराठी युनिकोडमधली साईट पाहा.
a href="http://www.ycmou.com/edn/bed/default.htm&#34; target="_blank" यशवंतराव चव्हाण युनि. बी एड् शिक्षणक्रम /a
ह्यांची फॉंट सुद्धा मला निर्दोष वाटली. (पण ती आपल्याला वापरता येत नाही.)

तुमच्या सूचना स्वागतार्ह आहेत. पाठवीत जा.

Chakor
Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXa Ê
maI Ê AapNa tyaar kolaolaI ‘idXaa’ ih yauiTilaTI vaaprlaI. Aaplaa ]pËma Ôar AnamaÜla AaiNa AiBanaMdnaIya Aaho. sava- marazI saaih%ya p`omaIM tÔo- Aaplao AaBaar.
malaa marazI dovanaagarI ilapI vaapÉna ilahayalaa AaiNa vaacaayalaa AavaDto. Xa@yatÜ maI maaJao sava- marazI saaih%ya laoKna ‘iXavaaija 05 ’ AaiNa ‘ikrNa ’ ha Ôa^nT vaapÉna maaJyaa la^pTa^p iknvaa ip. isa var kirtÜ. kaih idvasaatca malaa Aaplyaa sa^F,TvaoAr caI savaya JaalaI Aaho. BaaYaocyaa ]ccaaranausaar Aaplaa Ôa^nT ilaiht jaatÜ tyaamauLo ih p`NaalaI na@kIca p^Pyaular hܚla (at XaMkaca naaih.
ek ~uTI jaaNavato ik .....
AaplaI idXaa ih yauiTilaTI vaaprNyaa saaiz [nTrnaoT knao@Xna AsaNao jaÉircao Aaho.savaa-Mnaa to naohimaca Xa@ya naaih. jar AapNa ho saÜF,T\vaoAr mhNauna ]plabQa kÉna idlaot tr Ôar saܚskr hܚla. Aaplao prt ekda AaBaar AaiNa AiBanaMdna.
gauD lak Aa^nD baosT ivaXaosa.



Saurabh
Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


mahoXaÊ ek p`Xnavajaa ivanaMtI : idXaa maQyao dova maQaUna [Mga`jaIkDo jaaNyaasaazI jao baTNa Aaho %yaasaazI eKadI garma ikllaI ³ hotkey :D ´ zovata yao[la kaÆ


Mvelanka
Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

hÜ zovata yaošla. AaNaKIhI baáyaaca gaÜYTI hvyaa AahotÊ Xa@ya Aahot AaiNa krNaar Aaho. ]da. puYkL majakUr ekdma laIPyaMtirt krNaoÊ maonauÊ XaÜQaa AaiNa badlaa vagaOro.... hLU hLU hܚla..pNa na@kI hܚla.

Abhijit
Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mahoXaÊ idXaatUna direct print krayacaa option dota Aalaa tr baGaa... mhNajao IE/Netscape var yaa baabatIt trI AvalaMbaUna rhavao laagaNaar naahI.

Mru
Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

hi,
jar mala ekhadi site devnagri madhe karaychi ahe, ani tyat page titles pan devnagri madhech display karaychi asteel, tar te shakya ahe kaa ? ani asel tar kasa ? konala kahi mahiti ahe kaa... ?

Mvelanka
Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

t<vatÁ ho Xa@ya Aaho.
XaIYa-k ho Kro tr ivaMDÜcao XaIYa-k mhNaUna idsato. ³Íomacyaa baa^D-r var´ itqao vaaprlaI jaaNaarI Axaro jar yauinakÜDmaQyao AsalaI tr tI tXaI idsaayalaa hvaIt.
maa~ yaasaazI Aa^proiTMga isaisTmacao laÜkola dovanaagarI kravao laagaola ka Æ
jyaaMcyaakDo ivaMDÜja 2000 AahoÊ %yaaMnaa ho Xa@ya Aaho. %yaaMnaI (avar p`kaXa Takavaa.
icanaI ivaMDÜja maQyao jasao icanaI XaIYa-k idsato tsao ho dovanaagarIt idsaola Asao vaaTto.
baI baI saI cyaa ihMdI saašT maQyao <title> yauinakÜDmaQyao AahoÊ to ivaMDÜja 2000 var ksao idsatoÆ to pahayacaI malaa AjaUna saMQaI imaLalaI naahI

pa^p Ap maosaoja baa^@sa maQalao maosaoja yauinakÜD dovanaagarIt Asalao tr to iDfa^lT dovanaagarI faÐTmaQyao idsatatÊ to maI paihlaolao Aahot.­ laÜkola na badlata

Vijaykumar
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 2:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

cakÜrÊ
Aaplyaalaa marazIt offline laoKna krayacao Asaola ³]ccaaranausaar´ tr %yaasaazI tumhI IWRITE32,BARAHA,INDOMAIL caa vaapr kÉ Xakta.
ivajaykumaar

Vaatsaru
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

paN IWRITE32 madhe uchaaraanusar kuthe lekhan hote ?
te tar fakt velankaranchya Disha madhech hote. mhanaje 'lekhan' ha shabda 'Disha' madhe barobar disel pan iwrite32 madhe te laokhan asa kahisa lihava lagel
am i correct ?

Vijaykumar
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 3:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vaaTsaÉÊ
maaJyaakDo jao IWRITE Aaho %yaamaQao lekhan Asao Tašp kolyaavar laoKna Asaoca dIsato.

ivajayakumaar

Chakor
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 5:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ivajaya kumaarÊ
Qanyavaad. maI ‘Aaya ršT ’ Da]nalaÜD kola AaiNa vaapÉna paihlaM. paihjao %yaa sava- saÜyaI Aaho%yaa maQao ²
iXavaaya Ôa^nT ma^ipnga AaiNa rIvasa- knavaT- hyaa saÜyaIM mauLo barIca saÜya hÜto. malaa ho saa^F,TvaoAr Ôar AavaDlao. Qanyavaad.

:-)

Vijaykumar
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vaaTsaÉÊ
AapNa leap.map AaNaI shivaji.map yaa map Ôašlsa install kolyaa Aahot kaÆ%yaa kolyaa nasatIla tr %yaa install kra.%yaa tumhalaa ihtgauja var maILtIla.%yaa ikrNanao fukT ]plabQa kÉna dIlyaa Aahot. Iwrite maQao Tašp krayacyaa AaQaI vairla pOik eka Ôašlavar i@lak kra.maga eKada Xabd Tašp kra.maga transliteriate var i@lak kÉna rÜmana text convert kra.tÜ Xabd barÜbar dIsat nasaola tr select kra AaNaI tumhI shivaji map file click kolaI Asaola tr iXavaajaI fontselect kra.tumhI leap map file click kolaI Asaola tr DVTTYOGESH select kra.mhNajao marazI Axaro barÜbar idsatIla.

ivajaykumaar

Dharmadhikari
Friday, June 21, 2002 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

va va chakor,
ata padayala lag marathi webpages bharabhar.
Put fundu fundu links to cool sites like yahoo and Times of India.
Donot forget to put information about Shivaji, charolya, Ganapati festival, ladake pu la, and snaps of Raigad.
Send link to all well wishers.

;-)


Wakdya
Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 6:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

dovanaagarI saPtah AahoÊ sahja ilaKaNaa krta idXaa ]plabQa krNaayaa- vaolaNakrMcao hadI-k AiBanaMdna..
varcaI cacaa- malaa ÔarXaI samajalaI naaihÊ pNa idXaa jar download krta Aalao tr Kupca bahar hÜ[la

Mru
Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 7:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mvelanka :
Mi pahila BBC cha Hindi site war.. titles mala devnagri madhe disat nahit.. weglech characters yetayt.. Mi Win2000 ani WinXP cha machines war baghitli ti site..
Majha browser cha settings mahde opop Encoding Unicode set hotay tya page la, pan mala titles tarihi neet disat nahiyet.

Pan tyanni te kelay kasa ? where and how do you define on your page that the characters in the <title> should be in unicode ?

Vaatsaru
Monday, June 24, 2002 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ivajayakumaarÊ QanyavaadÊ tumacyaa saucanaaMcaa ]pyaÜga hÜ]na IWrite var malaa hvao tsao idsaU laagalao Aaho. AaBaar

Ashishchaskar
Monday, June 24, 2002 - 3:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

It might be tangetn to subject?
But is anybody trying to develop Operating System in devnagari? I am not talking about individual but any company ?
चोखंदळ ग्राहक
महाराष्ट्र धर्म वाढवावा
व्यक्तिपासून वल्लीपर्यंत
पांढर्‍यावरचे काळे
गावातल्या गावात
तंत्रलेल्या मंत्रबनात
आरोह अवरोह
शुभंकरोती कल्याणम्
विखुरलेले मोती


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