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Lalu
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

samaantr

(a ivaYayaavar pUvaI- cacaa- JaalaI Aaho ka ho maI AaQaI paihlao. yaacyaa javaL jaaNarI ek cacaa- sauÉ kolaI hÜtI kÜNaItrI pNa nantr vaogaLoca vaLNa laagalao %yaalaa. %yaamauLo maI punha sauÉ krt Aaho.

barMÊ tr ivaYaya Asaa AahoÊ Baartabaahor rahNaaro BaartIya vanXaacao kahI³sagaLo navho²´ laÜk ³yaat AmarazI BaartIya pNa Aalao´ Baartat %yaancao jasao jaga Asaola tsaoca ek jaga prdoXaat inamaa-Na krtat AaiNa %yaat rhtat. %yaancaa to rahtat %yaa doXaatlao laÜkÊ samaajaÊ sanskutIÊ rajakarNa yaacyaaXaI kahIhI sambaMQa nasatÜ. ]dahrNaaqa-Ê %yaancao
ima~manDla svaBaaXaI iknvaa svadoXaI laÜkancaoca Asato. tv var Ô> BaartIya kaya-Ëma baGatat.
social activities pNa tXaaca mayaa-idt Asatat. yaamaQao vaYaa-nauvaYao- prdoXaat rahNaaro laÜkhI Aahot.
maaJyaa eka ima~anao yaalaa ‘ Bubble ’ Asao mhTlao hÜto AaiNa ‘malaa yaa bubble caI kQaI kQaI Ôar BaItI vaaTto’ AsaohI baÜlaUna daKvalao|sao rahNyaamaagao kaya ivacaar AsatIlaÊ %yaacao Ôayado­tÜTo kaya AaiNa Asao iktI idvasa caalaU XaktoÊ %yaacaa maulaanvar kaya bara vaašT pirNaama hÜ] XaktÜ yaaba_ kahI ivacaarÊAnauBava AsatIla tr maaMDavaot. maI maaJao ivacaar naMtr ilahIna.


Mvelanka
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AXyaa (a ‘babalaUMcao’ ekca kuTuMba Asao rahat Asato kI %yaaMcyaa saaqaIlaa [tr kuTuMbaohI AsatatÆ

Keya
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

laalauÊ
AaplaI saMsaÌtI QaÉna rhaNao caaMgalaoca. ivaXaoYatÁ BaartathI Aajakala KUp paXca%ya p`Baava idsat Asatanaa. pNa..%yaaca barÜbar tumhI jyaa doXaat rhat Aahat %yaa doXaacyaa saMsaÌtIcaI AÜLK k$na Gyaayalaa hvaI. [qalao Aacaar ivacaar samajaUna Gyaayalaa hvaot. samaajaacaa dRYTIkÜnaÊ maanaisakta laxaat GaotlaI pahIjao. %yaamauLo AaplaI dRYTI p`galBa hÜto Asao malaa vaaTto. caaMgalyaa vaa[TacaI jaaNa yaoto.svasaMsaÌtI ba_la AiBamaana AsaavaaÊ duriBamaana navho.
parXaI laÜk jaovha Baartat p`qama Aalao to gaujarat maQyao. %yaaMcaa p`mauK gaujaratcyaa rajaalaa BaoTayalaa gaolaa. rajaanao ek duQaacao BaaMDo samaÜr zovalao. parXaanao %yaat saaKr GaatlaI va to hlavaUna prt rajaasamaÜr zovalao. %yaacyaa ÌtIcaa Aqa- Asaa kI AamhI yaa duQaatlyaa saaKro saarKoca tumacyaa saMsaÌtIt ivarGaLUna jaa]. AgadI evhZo naahI pNa dusaáyaa doXaaba_laÊ toiqala laÜkaMba_la Aadr daKvaayalaa hvaa.

Lalu
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mvelanka Anaok babalaUMnaI ek~ yao]na Asaa ek babala banavalaolaa AsatÜ.
keya tU mhNatosa to barÜbar AahoÊ tÜ yaÜgya maaga- JaalaaÊ pNa ho jao laÜk tsao krt naahIt %yaancao kuzo ADt AsaavaoÆ sava- saamaanya maaNasaacao AayauYya jagatanaa kaya Ôrk pDt Asaola kaÆ

Beti
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

sava- saamaanya maaNasaacao AayauYya jagatanaa Ôrk pDU nayao mhNaUnaca babala tyaar kolaa jaat Asaavaa. dudO-vaanao Anaokda %yaamaagao nyaUnagaMD AsatÜ. %yamauLo koyaa mhNato tXaI ideal situation na hÜta Ar~ naa pr~ AXaI Avasqaa hÜ} Xakto.

saamaaijak p`itYzocyaa iXaDIcyaa payaáyaa caZlyaavar Apirhaya-pNao %yaa doXaacyaa socialites maQao ]zbasa sauÉ hÜto tovha ~asa hÜt Asaola.

AaiNa maulao maÜzI hÜtanaa ~asa hÜt Asaavaa. karNa doXa AsaÜ ik ivadoXa maulaaMnaa naohmaIca peer approval AiQak mah<vaacaM vaaTtM.


Mvelanka
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


khI ADt naahI AaiNa ibaDt naahI. maI tr AsaohI eoklao Aaho kIÊ dÜGao prdoXaat yaotat. kQaI (acaa eca 1 itcaa eca 4
kQaI itcaa eca 1 (acaa eca 4 Asao krIt dha baara vaYao- ipXavaIt naÜTa Bartat. saÜXala isa@yauirTI kI kaya %yaacaa maITr Da}na hÜtÜ. maga puNyaalaa jaayacao AaiNa itqao maÜza Fla^T baIT Gao}na rahayacao. %yaat prdoXaat Ap%yap`aPtI JaalaolaI Asaola tr %yaacyaa BaivaYyaacaIhI saÜya JaalaolaI Asato. kahI maha%mao tr karhI Gaot naahIt. [tr doXabaaMQava %yaMnaa vaoLÜvaoLI saaMBaaLUna Gaotat.

hI maaJaI sava- maaihtI eokIva Aaho. (atlyaa sava- gaÜYTI ekaca kuTuMbaanao kolyaa AsatIla tr kmaala Aaho. malaa jara (at AitXayaÜ>I AaiNa AitrMijatpNaa vaaTtÜ. kahI taMi~k dÜYahI AsaNyaacaI Xa@yata Aaho. Kro KÜTo dova jaaNao

Beti
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

naahI naa mahoXa.. laalaulaa sava- BaartIya community ba_la mhNaayacaoya.. iktI trI gaujjau pnjaU itqaoca rhatat .. %yaancaa i~XankU hÜt Asaola ... AaiNa iktI trI marazI laÜkhI naahIca prt yaot.

Mvelanka
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

dusaro Asao kIÊ Baartatlyaa BaartathI AXyaa bauDbauD\yaaMt rahNaaro babalaU Aahot. kahI janmaat sadaiXava pozobaahor ³ikMvaa ijamaKanyaabaahor ikMvaa kÐpabaahor´ pDt naahItÊ sadOva AaPtÊ svakIyaÊ AÜLKIcaoÊ samaivacaarI (aMcyaaca saMgatIt rahtat. ³saava-jainak cacao-maQyaohI AÜLKIcyaaMXaIca baÜlatat ²²´ %yaaMcao pu~ pÝ~hI itqaoca lahanaacao maÜzo hÜtat. %yaaMcao kuzo kaya ADtoÆ

Manalim
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

i guess generally asha bubble madhe rahane sarvanach adhik surkshit vatte. ani tyat khup chukiche kahi nahi, karan jari tumhi itar lokan madhe mix vayla lagla ani tumche ani tyanche principles, vichar vegle astil (mostly astat) tar tumhi manapasun te accept nahi karu shakat.

ani mulan baddal mala ase vatte. ti jar pardeshatach vadhli tar naturally tyanchi thinking style ithlya lokansarkhich hote ani tyana hya pardeshi society madhe mix vayla far problem yenar nahi. apan fakta tyana asha tharene mix hotana far adkathi anaychi nahi evdhech.

me attach Whoopy Goldberg cha "good fences" pahila tya madhe pan ashich similar situation ahe. te aka khup affluent area madhe ghar ghetat. initially tithe fakt gorech rahat astat. ani jevha she gets one more afro-american neighbour, she likes to mingle with that neighbour more than gore neighbours etc.

Rajasee
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kaya frk pDtÜ bubble maQao raihlao trÆÆ tumhI jaovha Baartat rhta tovha dÜGaaMcyaa naÜkáyaaÊ maUlaMÊ saMsaar AXaI tarovarcaI ksart saaMBaaLUna Asaa ikitsaa vaoL imalatÜ samaajaasaazI ka XaojaaáyaaMsaz\hIÆ kÜNacaa kÜNaXaI saMbaMQa nasatÜÆ

baakI manaalaI cao mhNanao pTlao.

Mukund
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vairla dÜna pÜsT vaacauna sarD\yaacaI Qaava kuMpNaapya-Mt hI mhNa AaiNa kUpmaMDuk ha Xabd Aazvalaa²
ikyaacyaa matalaa maaJao AnaumaÜdna²

Mukund
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

lalu: I have observed what you said in your first post and I think on this issue on one other bb(malaa baÜcaNaaro ikssao ) person with id as "sasuli" has written well thought out and logical postings very recently,people who are well versed on this maayboli I am sure have read it,if not I will highly recommend you all to read those postings,which I think are pertinent to the topic on this bb.

Rajasee
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

trI bar Aamacaa sarDa kuMpNaapya-Mt QaavaNaar Aaho. kÜNaacaa sarDa kuzvar Qaavaavaa Æ ATkopar JaoMDo rÜvaavaot ik AakaXaat BararI GyaavaI ha jyaacaa %yaacaa p`Xna Aaho.

mukund Ê Aaplao ivaYayaaXaI saMbaMiQat kaya ivacaar Aahot to eokayalaa malaa nakIca AavaDolaÊ pNa inavvaL dusaáyaaMnaa iXavyaa do}na ikMvaa kÁpdaqa- laoKUna jar tumhalaa svatÁcao GaÜDo puZo damaTta yaošla Asao vaaTt Asaola tr tÜ Ba`ma manaaMtUna kaZUna Taklyaasa (a bb varcao vaatavarNa dUiYat hÜNaar naahI. pTtya ka baGaa naaihtr saÜDUna Va.

Mukund
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

here we go again!
as lalu said in the past similar bb took a wrong turn and here i do not wish to be the person doing that.for now my sugeestion to read sasuli' views on this issue on other bb will suffice, since my views are exactly the same as that person, so there is no point repeating that here, hence sugeestion to read that,besides i already said i agree with keya!a small correction here! i am not here to swear at anybody nor do i have any illusion nor any agenda to push forward!but i think i am entitled for my views about the topic on this bb and my reaction to views people post,if you are not ready to face the comments posted by people on your views then YOU are living in illusion,not me!because afterall this section is called as VIEWS AND COMMENTS! and if such people wish to swear at me or my views, go ahead!see if you agree otherwise leave it!
and if i remember, in above posting somebody has asked a question-- WHAT DIFFERANCE IT MAKES TO LIVE IN A BUBBLE? all i was saying that by doing that one becomes like kupmanduk or sarda in that marathi idiom!

Milindaa
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 7:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maukuMdÊ rajasaI jao saaMgato Aaho to naIT Qyaanaat Gyaa. tumhaMlaa yaa BB cyaa ivaYayaaMvar tumacaI mato maaMDNyaacaa AiQakar ja$r Aaho pNa [traMcyaa mataMvar AXaI TIka iTPpNaI kÉ naka. %yaaMcao mhNaNao sausaMgatpNao KÜDUna kaZta yaot Asaola trca kaZa...

Mukund
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Milinda,Rajasee,fair enough! You guys want to know my views on this issue,so here they are!
malaa yaa gaÜYTIcaa AitXaya raga yaotÜ kI kahI maaNasao prdoXaat yaotat AaiNa itqalyaa caalaIrItIÊsamaajaÊsaMsËutI yaaba_la puva-³duiXat´ga`hca k$na yaotat.[qalao laÜkca AsaoÊ [qalaI saMsËutI AamhI AalaÜ itqalyaapo@Xaa kItI naIca AahoÊAamacao Aacaar ivacaar %yaaMcyaapo@Xaa ksao ]cca Aahot yaacaa ToMmBaa maIrvat Asatat AaNaI hI gaÜYT to ivasartat kI %yaaMnaa kÜNaI [qao yaayacao Aaman~Na idlao navhto AaiNa jarI idlao Asalao trI %yaaMnaa [qao yaayacao kI naahI yaacao puNa- svaatM~\ya hÜtoÊkÜNaI baLjabarI nasaola kolaI.trI Asao laÜk prdoXaat yao}na [qalyaa sagaL\yaa gaÜiYTMcyaa naavaanao naohmaI XaMK krt Asatat.AaNaI va$na kbaulahI krtat kI AamhI kÜNaat imasaLt naahI²tirsauwa na imasaLtaÊna jaaNauna Gaota babala maQao rahuna mhNatat ik Aamacao %yaaMcyaaXaI pTt naahI Aro tumhI %yaaMnaa kQaI jaaNauna Gyaayacaa p`ya%na kolaa Aaho tumacyaa babala cyaa baahor yao]naÆ kI vaolaNakr mhNatat %yaap`maaNao 2 to 4 vaYaa-saazI f> pÜtDI Barayalaa AXaI maaNasao prdoXaat yaotatÆ Aro jyaa samaajaat AapNa rahtÜÊAaiqa-k fayado GaotÜ %yaa samaajaacao AapNa kahI doNa laagatÜ kI naaihÆ do some charity work like contributing to organizations like harvestors,united way,volunteer in your kids school if you have kids,participate in local politics to raise the awareness of our Indian community and their problems,be active in your local neighborhood housing complex,take initiative and show that you are willing to be a part of this society,know about your local basketball,football,baseball teams if you have those teams,conversations regarding performance of those teams goes loooooong way in creating friendship and making each other comfortable at work place,with neighbors,these are few things we all can easily do!kI f> pOsao kmavaayacaoÊAaiqa-k fayada kÉna Gyaayacaa AaiNa maÉ Va naa baakIca sagaL² malaa kaya krayacao Aaho [qalyaa laÜkaMcyaa caalaIirtIMnaa samajaavauna Gao]na²AXaI vaR<aI zovaayacaIÆmaga laa^sa eoM^jaolaosa laa 10 vaYaa-puvaI- Jaalaolyaa dMgalaIt jaXaI kÜrIyana laÜkaMcaI pirisqatI JaalaI hÜtI tXaI ek idvaXaI Aaplyaa laÜkaMvar AXaa babala maQao rahaNaayaa- laÜkaMmauLo AalyaaiXavaaya rahaNaar naaih²Aro AXaI pÜtDI Barayalaa AalaolaI maaNasao 2 to 3 vaYaa-t inaGauna jaatIla hܲ pNa AamacyaasaarKo 15 to 20 vaYao- rahIlaolao laÜk Aahot %yaaMcao kayaÆAro BaItIcao karNa saÜDa maI mhNatÜya AXaa laÜkaMnaa ha doXa kuzlyaa t%vaaMvar AaQaarlaa Aaho ho trI maaiht Aaho naaÆ Life,Liberty and Persuit of happiness and emphasis on individual excelence and ability to reach your maximum potential without worring about corruption and other external factors! maaJao [qao ]cca iXaxaNa JaalaoÊnaMtr maaJyaa maoiDkla xao~at [qalyaa laÜkaMXaI dOnaMidna AaNaI AgadI javaLuna saMbaMQa AalaoÊmaaJaI ek vaihnaI Amaoirkna Asauna itlaa AaNaI itcyaa sava- naatovaaškaMnaa maI gaolaI 20 vaYao- caaMgalao AÜLKtܲ %yaamauLo kahI maaNasao Asao javaLuna kahIhI na phata jaovha svatha babala maQao rahuna Aamacao ivacaar jauLt naahIt Asao mhNatat tovha %yaaMnaa kupmaMDuk naahI mhNaayacao tr kaya mhNaayacaoÆ
rajasaI malaa maI tumhalaa XaIvaIgaaL kolaI Asao vaaTlao yaacaa Kod hÜtÜ.maI f> tumacyaa ivaQaanaatuna jaI vaRi<a jaaNavalaI %yaa vaRi<aba_la maaJao mat maaMDlao.tumhalaa tI iXavaIgaaL vaaTlaI Asaola tr maI Xatda tumacaI maafI maagatÜ

Beti
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maukund (a pÜsTmaQalao barocasao ivacaar pTlao. pNa saaMsËuitk dovaaNa GaovaaNa hI savaa-McaI garja Asatoca AsaohI naahI %yaamauLo to rhat AsatIla babalamaQao ikMvaa %yaaMcaohI yaamaagao kahI AnauBava AsatIla .. rajasaInao saaMigatlaolyaa practical karNaaMsaiht [trhI kahI karNao AsatIla..

pNa baroca ivacaar pTlao AaiNa hÜ XaovaTcaa para hI AavaDlaa ... :-)

Manalim
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mukund, i think yr postings r unnecessarily too aggressive.

jya samajat apan rahato tyala apan kahitari return dile pahije he barobar ahe. pan tumhipan bhartat pahili 20/25 varshe rahila asal. india la tumhi kay dile return mhanun ? kadachit tumhi dile pan asel, pan ashi kititari manse ahet those r not interested in any charity or social work. but those obeys rules of society and like to live happily with their family. that is their nature. tevha ashani keval ata te pardeshat ahe mhanun he sagle KARAYLACH have ase tumhala mhanayche ahe ka?

generally everybody feel comfortable in their family then in their community. whats wrong in it? ithle american pan india madhe gele tar tyancha american cha group madhech ti rahatil. jar ka ase naste tar evdhe varsha britishani india var rajya kele pan kuthala british india madhe sthayik kasa ho nahi zala?

i am not against mixing in their culture or politics etc. pan american friends havech ase desperation asnyahci kahich garaj nahi, kharach tumche ani tyanche sur julale ani naturally friendship zali tar thik ahe. but i will not go out of way to gain their friendship. tyasathi mindhe asnyachi garaj nahi. barech vela ase behaviour apan indian ahot, gore nahi asha inferiority complex madhun hote. tyamule mala ase vatte mala kharach changle mazya taste la match honare friends milale tar thik, then those friends can become part of my bubble.

Rajasee
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

manaailacao ivacar ekdma pTlao. qaÜiDfr maaJaakDUna Bar.

jao laÜk [qao pOsao kmaavaNyaacya ]_oXaanaI AalaolaI Aahot. %yancyaa kdUna samajat ivarGaLUna janao [%yandI Apoxa qaovaNao gaOr Aaho. %yaaMcao [qao yaoNyaacao Aina rahnyaacao ]i_YT clear Aaho. to saha vaYaa-MnaI prt jaaNaar Aahot. %yaamaulao jyaa gaÜYTIMcaa %yaaMnaa fayada imaLnyacaI saUtrama Xa@yata nahI AXya dIGa-klaIna gaÜYTIt %yaaMnaI gauMtvaNaUk ka krvaIÆÆ kÜiNa vyavaharI AsaNao AaiNa %yaanausaar vaagaNao kahI gaOr Aaho Asao malaa trI vaaTt naahI.

Aata jao laÜk [qao sqaašk hÜNaar AahotÊ tirhI Aapaplyaa vatu-Lat rahtat. [qao mau#yatÁ saÜya ha GaTk mah%vaacaa Aaho. iktIhI naahI mhMTlao trI svap`aMtIyaÊ svadoXaI laÜkaMXaI interact krNao jaovaZo saÜpo AaiNa sahja jaato tovaQao [traMXaI jaat naahI. far kmaI laÜkaMcaI out of the way jaa}na AXyaa gaÜYTIMsaazI maohnat GaonyaacaI tyaarI Asto. tsaoca AXyaa laÜkaMnaa svatÁcyaa puZcyaa ipQaIlaa saaMsaÌitk vaarsaa doNao AiQak garjaocao vaTU Xakto. maulaaMsaazI ivaXaoYa kaihca p`ya%na na krta tI by default Amaoirkna hÜNaarcaÊ pNa jar saMskarxama vayaat AXyaa maulaMnaa vatu-Lat zovalao tr Aaplya saaMsaÌitkÊ saamaaijak maUlyaaMcaI japNaUk krNao jaast saÜyaIcao Aaina jaast p`BaavaI hÜtI.

Keya
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 2:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

manaalaIÊ
tU mhNatosa to barÜbar Aaho kI [qalyaa AmaorIkna laÜkaMbarÜbar maO~I vhavaI mhNaUna desparate hÜNao caaMgalao naahI. pNa rÜjacyaa jaIvanaat AmaorIkna laÜkaMcaa saMpk- AprIhaya- AsatÜ. ivaXaoYataÁ tumhI naÜkrI krt Asaala tr. tovhahI kovaL ‘ho gaÜro AahotÊ maI mau_a jaa]na maO~I krNaar naahIÊ malaa %yaaMcaI garja naahI’ Asao na mhNata KoLImaoLInaoÊ sahja%yaa %yaaMcyaamaQyao saamaavaUna jaaNao yaat vaa[T kahIca naahI. Aaplaa svaaiBamaanaÊ dignity na saÜDta ho krta yaoto. iXavaaya %yaamauLo yaa laÜkaMcaa Aaplyaa kDo baGaNyaacaa dRYTIkÜnahI badlatÜ. [qalyaa baáyaaca laÜkaMAa Aaplyaa doXaaba_la maaihtI naahI. jaI Aaho tI barÜbar naahI. hI ek saMQaIca Asato Aaplyaa doXaaba_laÊ Aaplyaa jaIvana pQdtI ba_la %yaaMnaa yaÜgya maahItI kÉna doNyaacaI. tumhI jaovha %yaaMcyaaba_la Aadr daKvaala tovha tumacyaa ba_lahI to Aadr daKvatIla. rajasaI mhNato %yaap`maaNao Aaplyaa kMpUt rhaNao hI sahja p`vaR<aI Aaho. tumhI tumacyaa doXaapasaUnaÊ naatovaa[kaMpasaUna dUr Aalaolao Asata tovha vaaTNaaáyaa insecurity pasaUna tI yaoto. %yaat vaavagao kahIca naahI. pNa Aaplyaa kÜYaatUna baahor yao]na inadana ekdÜnada trI yaa laÜkaMnaa jaaNauna Gyaayacaa p`ya%na ka kÉ nayaoÆ %yaa vaoLI jar Asao vaaTlao kI saUr jauLNaar naahIt tr Aaplyaa vaaTa vaogaL\yaa.. pNa kovaL pUva-ga`h manaat zovaUna vaoga,Lo rhNyaacaa p`ya%na kÉ nayao. kovaL kutuhla mhNauna hI tumhI %yaaMnaa BaoTU Xakta. kuNaasa za}k tumacaI jaIvaaBaavaacaI maO~INa tumhalaa yaa pr@yaa laÜkaMmaQyao saapDola. ha maaJaa svaanauBava Aaho. AaiNa tÜ f> AmaorIka yaa doXaalaa laagau hÜt naahI. Baartabaahorcyaa kuzlyaahI prdoXaaba_la Asao mhNata yao[la.
tumacaI maulao jar [qao vaaZNaar AsalaI tr tumhI Aavajau-na AmaorIkna jaIvana pQdtIÊ saMsaÌtI samajaavaUna GaotlaI pahIjao. maulaaMnaa dÜnhI jaIvana pQdtItlaa frk samajaavaUna saaMgaItlaa pahIjao. naahItr maulao gaÜMQaLtatÊ confuse hÜtat. kQaI kQaI complex caI iXakar hI hÜtat.
malaa Aalaolao ek dÜna AnauBava maI [qao lavakrca ilahIna.

Zakki
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 3:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AamacaI maulao [qao janmalaI ina vaaZlaI. %yaaMcao barocasao ima~ Amaoirkna AahotÊ pNa %yaaMnaa BaartIya ima~ maOi~NaI pNa Aahot. ³ Not necessarily our friends' kids ´maaJyaa tIna caar putNao putNyaaMnaI Amaoirkna laÜkaMXaI lagnao kolaI. naÜkrIcyaa izkaiNa Aamacao Kasa ima~ Amaoirknaca hÜto. pNa social circle maQao f> marazI kuTuMbao Aahot ³Xa@yatÜ baáyaaca vaYaa-MpUvaI- puNyaatlao Asalaolao ikMvaa puNyaat raihlaolao. %yaaMcyaaXaI Aamacao jaast pTto. Aajakalacao puNaokr navho²´. Aamacao ekMdirt kaihhI ADlao naahI. AamhI vaoLp`saMgaI naohomaIca volunteer kama krtÜ. ³vaacanaalayaÊ gaavaatlao events [.´ Aa<aapya-Mt BarpUr T^@saosa ina social security BarlaolaI Aaho. vaoL AalaI tr AmaoirknaaMnaa GarI baÜlaavatÜÊ %yaaMcyaa GarI jaatÜ. f> AamhI varcyaa saarKo tai%vak ivacaar krt basat naahI. jao samaÜr yaošla %yaalaa kuzlaohI pUva-ga`h na maanata saamaÜro jaatÜ. f> vaYaa-nauvaYao- jyaU laÜkaMcaa naÜkrIcyaa izkaiNa A%yaMt vaašT AnauBava Aalyaanao jara japUna AsatÜ. AnauBavaava$na mhNaayacao tr f> jaunao BaartIya ina Amaoirkna yaaMcao ina Aamacao pTtoÊ naivana BaartIyaaMcaoÊ [qalyaa kaya ikMvaa Baartatlyaa kayaÊ Aamacao mauLIca pTt naahI. Apvaad kahI ]llaoKnaIya maayabaÜlaIkr²

Keya
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kÜNaI maInaa p`BauMcao ‘maaJao laMDna’ vaacalao Aaho kaÆ ih baaš naKiXaKaMt BaartIya AahoÊ %yaacaa itlaa AiBamaanahI Aaho. pNa jyaa pQdtInao tI itqalyaa saMÌtIt imasaLuna gaolaI to phata itcyaa ba_la Aadr vaaTlyaavaacaUna rhavat naahI. imaLalyaasa jaÉr vaacaa.
Jai@kÊ maI kovaL tai%vak ivacaar maaMDlao naahIt hÜ. tÜ maaJaa svaanauBava Aaho. malaa Aalaolao AnauBava kuNaalaa na kuNaalaa trI nai@kca Aalao AsaNaar AaiNa eKaVa gaÜYTIba_la kovaL ‘Asao ka’ Asa ivacaar na krt basata ‘ho badlata yao[la ka’ haca ivacaar manaat yaotÜ. baIbaIcyaa ivaYayaapoxa qaÜDo vaogaLo Aaho maaiht AsaunahI %yaaca AnauYaMgaanao vaaTlao mhNauna [qao ilaihlao mhNauna tai%vak ivacaar vaaTt AsatIla. ija%yaacaI KÜD mhNaa hvao tr...

Arch
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

laalaUÊ tU kXaaba_la samaaMtr mhNato AahosaÆ AaiNa [qalaI saMsaÌit AaiNa India tlaI hillacaI saMsaÌit (at jaast Ôrk raihlaa trI kuzo AahoÆ AaplyaakDo New Year's eve cyaa party pasaUna to Valentine's Day cyaa celebration sakT sagaL\yaaca AnaukrNa caalaU Aaho gauiZpaDvyaaca sarsvaitpUjana vagaOro klpnaa sauKvastU marazI kuTuMbaatUna ca@k baajaUlaa pDlyaa Aahot. maga ]gaacaca Ô> US maQyaoca Asatanaa Aaplaa bubble saaMBaaLayacaa ho iktpt yaÜgya AahoÆ

Zakki
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 5:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AamacyaakDo jaoMvha gauZIpaDvaaÊ idvaaLIÊ gaNaptI ³AiQavaoXana´hÜtatÊ toMvha to bubble saaMBaaLayalaaca ikMvaa saMskRtIcyaa p`omaacao p`dXa-na krayalaaca hÜtat Asao ka samajatat kahI laÜkÆ Baartatlyaa laÜkaMnaa ]gaIcaca ka vaaTto kI %yaaMnaa impress krayacaI Aamhalaa garja AahoÆ mauLIca naahI. inadana yaa doXaatlao vyai>svaatM~\ya AnauBavalyaavar tr na@kIca naahI. baakI kahI kolao trI lahanapNaapasaUna Jaalaolao saMskar [t@yaa sahjapNao ivasarNaar AahÜt kaÆ Aamhalaa AjaUna %yaacaI gaÜDI Aaho mhNaUna krtÜ.

mhNaUnaca maaJao Baartatlyaa laÜkaMba_la mat kDU Jaalao. kayama gaOrsamajaÊ AivaXvaasa²

Arun
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

arch: ek p`Xna ... sarsvatI pUjana gauiZpaDvyaalaa krtat kaÆ ka dsaáyaalaa krtatÆ

Mvelanka
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 6:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


tojalakDo pUjana nasatM
p`tIxaakDo pUjana nasatM
ya&oXakDo pUjana nasatM

indya t Aata nobody does like pUnana ibajana business!

indya tlaI sagga|LI ‘laÜkM’ Aata f> baasauMdIcyaa raMgaot ]BaI rahtat ---- ‘bauk’ kolaolaoš baasau.dI GarI nao}na Pyaayalaa.

Anilbhai
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

[MDIyaat saggaLIkDo icakna Katat caI AazvaNa JaalaI :-)

Arch
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Jai@kÊ maI [qao qaÜD\yaa idvasa rhaNaaáyaa laÜkaMba_la mhNat hÜto jao [qao Aijabaat imasaLU phat naaiht Americans maQyaoca kaya pNa [qao settle Jaalaolyaa Indians pasaUnapNa baajaUlaa rahUna Ô> Aaplyaa group maQyaoca rahUna AitXaya saMkucaIt ivacaaranao rahNaaáyaa laÜkaMba_la mhNat Aaho. AamhI prt jaaNaar AahÜt %yaamauLo Aamhalaa (a sagaL\yaaMXaI kaya doNaGaoNa Aaho AXaI (aMcaI vaRi<a Asato. even dovaLat jarI BaoTlao trI AamhI [qao ]pkar krayalaa AalaÜ AahÜt³ [qalyaa laÜkaMnaa AamacaI garja Aaho. AamacyaaiXavaaya (aMcaI kMpnaI caalaUca XakNaar naahI vagaOro vagaOro´

AÉNaÊ Aamacyaa lahanapNaI maulaaMnaa gauZIpaDvyaacyaa saumauhuta-var XaaLot Gaalat Asat AaiNa %yaa idvaXaI sarsvaitpUjana krt Asat.

Lalu
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

evaZI sagaLI posts vaacaUna Aata ilahayalaa vaoL Jaalaa. Thanks for the response.
maI Aata XaovaTcyaa post pasaUna maaJyaa comments ilahayalaa sauÉvaat krto.

ek gaÜYT saangaayacaI raihlaI mhNajao [qao kuzlyaahI eka jaIvanpwtIlaa ‘caangalao’iknvaa ‘vaašT’mhNaayacao naahI Aaho.
%yaamauLo kuzlyaahI eka baajaUnao tavaatavaanao BaanDayalaa nakÜ. AaNaKI ek mhNajao maI personally AXaa bubble maQao rhNyaacyaa ivaÉw Aaho.


Arun, Arch ]<ar do[laca. :-)

Arch, maI yaa bb cao naava ‘samaantr’ AXaasaazI zovalao kI ho bubble maQalao laÜk ijaqao jaatat itqalyaa samaajaat imasaLt naahIt. ho dÜna samaaja ekaca p`tlaatlyaa dÜna samaaMtr roYaaMsaarKo AsatatÊ mhNaUna.

Zakki, tumacao dÜna post vaacalao. yaa ivaYayaalaa Qa$na jao mau_o Aahot to pTlao. Aaplao saNa saajaro krNao mhNajao bubble maQao rhNao navho. maI trI tumhalaa bubble maQalao samajat naahI.karNa tumhI tsaa Ôrk zovalaa naahI. bubble maQao rhNaaya-ncaI ‘AapNa vaogaLo AahÜt’ hI Baavanaa Asato.

keya, tuJyaa sagaL\yaa posts XaI maI 100 sahmat Aaho. malaa hI AgadI Asaoca AnauBava Aalaolao Aahot.maI ‘maaJaM lanDna’ vaacalao Aaho. ‘ho badlata yao[la ka’ Asaa ivacaar k$na maI sauwa tsaa p`ya%na krt AahoÊpNa zakki naI mhTlyaap`maNao kahI tsaa ivacaar krt basat nasatIlaÊ pNa bubble maQao hI rhat nasatIla.
to zIk Aaho. I will send you a link or post it here, I think you might be interested in.

mukund tumhIhI kahIsao keya saarKo mau_o manDlao Aahot pNa jara strong BaaYaot.tumacao frustration maI samajaU Xakto. jao AaplyaasaarKa ivacaar krtatÊ %yaanaI Aapaplyaa prInao tsaa p`ya%na krt rhavaaÊ jaast laÜkanaI saaqa idlaI tr baroca Aaho.

rajasee, manaalee tumhI bubble maQalyaa laÜkaMcaI baajaU maanDayacaa p`ya%na kolaa Aaho.Kro tr malaa toca hvao hÜto. bubble maQao rhNaaro laÜk ksaa ivacaar krt AsatIla to tumacyaa posts
va$na kLlao. pNa dusayaa- samaajaat imasaLNyaasaazI kahI ‘Kasa’ p`ya%na kravao laagatat Asao malaa
vaaTt naahI. ]laT bubble maQao rhayalaa kravao laagatat. "out of the way" jaa]na tumhI dusayaa- doXaat rhayaalaa Aalaa Aahat. [qao imasaLUna jaaNao hI gaÜYT tr svaaBaavaIk AsalaI paihjao Asao malaa vaaTto.

mvelanka, Baartatlao babalaU AaiNa [qalao yaat tulanaa hÜ] Xakola Asao malaa vaaTt naahI.

beti, caangalao mau_o maanDlao Aahosa. [qao sagaLo us maQalao laÜk jaast ilaiht AahoÊ tU AaNaKI kahI AnauBavaÊivacaar ilaihlaosa tr AavaDola.

AXaa bubble maQalyaa laÜkancao kahI ‘ADNyaa’ po@XaaÊ I think they are missing out something .
yaa laÜkanaa iXakNyaacaI AaiNa iXakvaNyaacaI KUp maÜzI sanQaI Aaho tI vaayaa GaalavaU nayao Asao vaaTto.


Rajasee
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I think they are missing out something>>>
laalaUÊ ho babalaU kaya miss krtat (acao dÜna tIna daKlao idlaosa tr ...Æ

Manalim
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 9:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ithe bubble chi pratyekachi defination vegli diste ahe.

mazya mate bubble mhanje close friend circle apekshit ahe. ajun tari mazya hya bubble madhe indians (zakki mhantat tase mainly marathi) ahet.

ithe bubble madhe work place, mulanche circle dharlele nahi ahe. naturally tithe tumhi mix hotatch. pan ti friendship mostly varvarchi aste, kadhitari hi-bye karnyaevdhi ani quachit ghari vaigere janya itki. YOu can not call that as yr close circle.

varil post madhe kahini lihilyapramane hya samajat even work place madhe pan mix na honari manse me tari pahileli nahit, tyamule mala evdhi basic def of bubble expected navte.

baki zakkinche posting avdale. maze london pustak chanach ahe.

Pallavi
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Zakki mala ek prashna aahe: tumche hallichya navin immigrants shi ka patat nahi?
prashna asha sathi wicharla ki ikde marathi mandalat jevha junya lokanshi olkah zali tevha tyani pahila prasha wicharla ki tumhi H1 war ahat ka aani s/w madhe aahat ka? aani tase wichartana tyanchya chehryawar atyant kutsitpanache bhaaw hote... te jara khatakle... mhanun navin immigrants shi junyanche ka patat nasawe he kalun ghyaychi utsukta aahe.

Storvi
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Pallavi, Zakkincha patat nahi ase te kuthe mhanale... :-)

aga amchya ithe tari amhala tasle kahich anubhav nahi ale, ulat nave-june sagle chan misaloon gele ahet.. ani mala zakkincha patata.. amcha hi kahisa tyanchya sarkhach ahe...

Beti
Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

laalaU maaJaI mato koyaa AiNa maukuMd saarKI Aahot pNa savaa-McaI tXaI AsaavaItca Asao naahI. tovha yaa vastuisqatIcaI ek baajaU mhNaUna rajasaI AaiNa manaalaI yaaMcao ivacaar samajalao. manaalaI pÜisTMga AavaDlao.

[qao maI maaJyaa ivaYayaatlao AVyaavat tM~&ana iXakayalaa AaiNa Aqaa-tca pOsao kmavaayalaahI Aalao. BaaYaa saMskRtI yaaba_la kutUhla hÜtoca.

pihlao vaYa- babalaUsaarKoca gaolao.. acclimatization process maQao.. Ô> babalamaQao maI AaiNa maayabaÜlaI [tkoca hÜtÜ. :-)

pNa ÉLlyaavar laxaat Aalao ik [qalao bahusaM#ya babalaU timaL laÜk AaiNa tOvaanaI yaaMcyaaXaI yaoNaaáyaa ADcaNaI saar#yaaca. pNa tOvaanaI tumhalaa saamaavaNyaacaa p`ya%na trI krtat... %yaamauLo babalaU timaLaMAapoxaa Aaplao sqaainak AaiNa prdoXaI saMXaÜQakaMXaI jaast jamato. Aata [qao kahI marazI laÜkhI Aahot. %yaat kahI KUp Cana ima~ maOi~NaI Jaalao. kahI baMgaalaI AaiNa dixaNaÊ ]<ar BaartIya snaohIhI Aahot. [tr babalaU marazI laÜk AjaUnahI maaJao gaava maaJaI jaat yaaMcao BaaMDvala krtat. %yaaMcyaaXaI naahI pTlao.

babalaU nasalyaacao kahI Ôayado Jaalao. ]da. [qao maI desparation maQao KbadaDatIla ek vaacanaalaya XaÜQalao itqao Anaok pUvaI- na vaacalaolaI jaunaI Amaoirkna pustko vaacalaI.

sqaainakaMXaI maO~I krtanaa desperation daKvayacaI garja naahI BaasalaI. maI rsa daKvalyaanao sahja maO~I JaalaI. maga %yaaMcao rItI irvaajaÊ Qama-Ê pakÌtI.. Kasa k$na cahaÊ icanaI Aa^poraÊ kpDoÊ koXBaUYaaÊ icanaI AÝYaQap`NaalaI .. KUp gaÜYTIncaI maaihtI imaLalaI. tsaoca tOvaanacyaa 10 aborigine tribe ba_lahI maI pUNa- AnaiBa& hÜto. %yaaMcaI hstklaaÊ gaaNaI phayalaa eokayalaa imaLalaI. (at rsa Asalyaanao vaoL majaot gaolaa. iXavaaya inadana kahIMcao Baartaba_lacao Anaok gaOrsamaja dUr krayacaI saMQaIhI imaLalaI. AapNa taz maanaonao AaiNa dusaáyaa saMskRtIcaa Aadr zovaUna baÜlalaÜ tr AaDmauzo laÜkhI jara narma yaotat ha AnauBava Gaotlaa. maI [qao ekTI Aaho mhNaUna maI ho kolao AsaohI naahI. maaJyaa pircayaat AXaI kahI prdoXaI kuTuMbaohI Aahot.


maaJyaa hohI Qyaanaat Aalao ik Aamacyaaba_la tOvaanyaaMcaI Baavana AiQak positive Aaho. prdoXaat p`%yaok jaNa Aaplyaa doXaacao p`itinaiQa%va krtÜ yaa dRYTInao malaa trI ho mah<vaacao vaaTto.

samaaja?Na ÔoDNyaasaazI Baartat krt Asao tsao ikrkÜL [qaohI krto. %yaat saaMgaNyaasaaArKo kahI naahI.

pNa ho Kro jyaaMnaa yaa saamaaijak saaMskRitk gaÜYTIt rsa naahI %yaaMnaa (at kahIca achievement naahI AsaohI vaaTola. to %yaMcyaa baajaUnao KrohI Aaho. :-)



Abedekar
Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

an observation: tendencies differ significantly between folks who have been here (in the US) as graduate students as compared to those who came here directly to earn a living (mostly H1B).

when you are a graduate student - you are exposed to a lot of foreign (not just american) cultures, people from various background, and because of non standard workhours, spend a lot lot more time together and get better acquainted. the chances of meeting newer and newer folks are much much higher, thereby increasing your exposure.

things change when you are working, you meet only from 9-6 or so, and that too in a lot more formal manner. most junta are married, hence the so-called babalaU tendencies increase ... and the chances ofmeeting new "non-desi" crowd are that much lower ....
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