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Gundyabhau
Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

[Admin : mala mahit nahi re asa discussion kuthlya BB var agodarach zaley ki nahi vagaire..asel tar te pls tikde post kar.]

Many of us are in the process of migrating to US
permanently, some are thinkin about it and some do not want to do it now but might consider that..etc etc..

kahijanani aplya aaibabana ameriket anale hi asel. kahijananche aaibaba ekade ramle hi asatil(kina 'adjust' zale asatil)...kahinche nahi..kinva kahijan ekhada varsha 'swat: bhartat jaun yene' ani kahivela 'tyna ekde anana' asa 'madhyam-marg' hi kadhat asatil..

pan ek matra khara tyanchya shivay ayushyala kahi arth nahi.career peksha hi mala te mahatwyache vatatat.tumha sarvansarkhech..ha ek aajchya peedhicha common prashna aahe...

hya discussion madhe kuni interesetd aahe ka? apale anubhav kay aahet he aikayala avadel eethe..
(maza ajun yaa madhe kahi hi anubhav nahi..nahitar meech suruwat keli asati)

note : eethe 'kiti sope' 'kiti avaghad' ha prashna 'bhavanik' pataLivarcha samjava. 'legal difficulties in migration' baddal cha nave !

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 3:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Gundyabhau : mala adhi ha BB 'legal' baddal vatla mhanun firaklo nahi. pan 'bhavanik' charcha ahey mhanun udi marat ahey :-)

asa ekhadach asel ki hya dvidha manasthitit kadhi adakla nasel. jyana apan ABCD mhanto tyana kadachit ha prashna padla nasel. baki loka vicharch karat basle astil ...

majhya varti tari asli vel aleli nahi. pan mala vatate ki aplya aai-baba'na ikde migrate karne mhanje eka parine tyana shiksha hoel .. kaalya panyachi mhatli tari chalel .. ektar tyanche nimmyahun ardha ayushe tikde gelele aste. jeevnat tadjod karat, adjustments karat tyani 2/3rd ayushya paar kelele aste. ata hya vaya madhye tyana parat sagli adjustments karaila sangne mhanje trasikch nahi ka ? adjustments jaudya, pan tyana ikde kuni sobat aste ka ? sobat mhanje tyanchya vayache, bhashyache vagaire .. ani ajun mhanje divas bhar tyanche tech ekte, kuni gappa maraila nahi, bolaila nahi, firaila nahi .. tyat ikde sagle weathers extreme astat .. unhala asla ki yevdha ki baher jane shakya nahi ani thandi madhye yevdhi ki baher jaane mhanje haalch .. mhanje 24 taas ghara madhye kaid ! ani baher jaichi tyanchi iccha jhali tari swatahun jata yet nahi .. ani apts complex madhye firun firun kiti ani kuthe-kuthe firnar ???

Gundyabhau, mala tari vatate ki saglyana patat asave ki aai-baba'na ikde anane mhanje tyanche haal karnya sarkhe ahey. huh, sutti sathi firaila anane me consider karat nahi huh ! mhanunch kuni lihile nasave kivva charcha jhali nasavi. shevti charcha karaila don veglya matache loka havet na !!!!!

ho ki nahi ho hitgujkar ??? :o))

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

samrya, gundyabhau,

maza anubhav yachya agadi utal ahe. mazi aai mazyajawal ek varshabhar hoti. yethe indian community farach kami ahe. hawaman hi tokache. pan tila ithe rahayala khup awadale. kayadyapramane ek varshahun jast rahu shakat nahi, mhanun tila parat pathawawe lagale.

tyasathi kahi goshtinchi madat zali.

1. mazi mulagi shala sutalyawar saral ghari yei. kadhi kadhi maitrininna gheun hi. tyamule ardha diwasach ekate basawe lage.
2. shaniwari-rawiwari amhi awarjun baher jat asu. kitihi wait hawa asali tari. gadit basale ki hawecha parinam janawat nahi.
3. agadi dukanat hi (dudh anayala suddha) mi tila gheun jat ase. tila chalawat nase; mhanun amhi tila wheelchair madhun nyayacho.
4. mazya sarva bhawandankade email ahe. tyanche don olinche ka hoina, roj patra yei. tiche patra amhi scan karun pathawat asu.
5. tila roj che wartaman patra wachun dakhawat asu / print karun det asu.
6. ajubahuchya lokanshi ti "hi / hello" karat ase. ithe walk-ways asalyamule firayala jane sope hote. ti lokanshi tila jamel tyapramne gappa marat ase.
7. TV war tila awadatil ase karyakram tine shodhun kadhale (cooking, crafts, drawing, paintings wagaire)
8. ratri ekhade serial (bewitched sarakhe) amhi sarva kutumb milun baghat asu.

mala watate ki wayomanawar khupach awalambun asate. madhyam wayeen aai-wadil swata:che swata: jagu shakatat. thodya utar wayat koni tari kalaji ghyawi ase watate.

dusari mahatwachi goshta mhanaje dusari sanskruti tumhi kiti accept karu shakata. Acceptance mhanje ti swikarane navhe, tar "jaga ani jagu dya" ase kahise.

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 6:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Shubha : agdi barobar .. "wayomanawar khupach awalambun asate" .. madhyam vayeen swatah jagu shaktat ani tyana tase ikde karta yet nahi .. tyana tyancha circle todaila laun apan apli soy pahileli aste .. frankly, tyana ikde anaiche mhanje ikde tyana mulanchi kaljee ghene jasti ani baki nantar asey hote .. please dont take personally, pan baryach wela aplyala asey pahaila milte.

shivay deshat kase apan barech varsha ekhadya area madhye rahilele asto tar char loka jasti mahiti astat. shivay aplya kade shejari jaun gappa marlelya chaltat kivva shejarche alele chaltat (je ikde iccha asun suddha ghadavun anta yet nahi). manat ale tar te uthun dusrya gaavat aplya natevaikana / mitrana bhetaila jau shaktat. ikde kuna kade janar ? thodya mahinyani tyana suddha tyach tyach life cha kantala yeu lagat asel. tyana tyanchya vayala / vicharala shobhel asey karmanukiche kahihi karta yet nasel. na kirtan, na bhajan, na mandir, na patte, na kahi saN !!!

Shubha, tumhi tumchya parine sagle kele ani tujhi aai suddha adjust jhali. kharach tumha sarvanche kautugspad ahey. ani tu mhante tase barobar ahey ki "acceptance".

pan general pahaila gelo tar desha madhye ideal mhatara-mhatari jase divas ghalavtat tase tyana ikde karta yet nasel na !!!

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

samarya,

ha prashna kewal US / bharat ihech yeto ase nahi. punya-mumbai che sthaik lok sodale, tar lok nokari sathi dusarya gawi jatat. tumache kahi mitra hi bangalore / madras la nokari sathi gele asatil. tithe rahane he hi US sarakhech ahe. bhasha wegali, khane-pine, bhajya wegalya. fakt jayala-yayala visa lagat nahi itakach. pravas kadhi-kadhi adhik kastacha hi asu shakel.

lokanna bhajan-kirtan awadate ha mazya mate air samaj ahe. awadate te apalya wayachya lokanshi bhetane, gappa marane.

ithe hi dupari soccer moms gappa maratat. amachya gharajawal chya talyawar assisted living madhil lok yet.

ikade yenya adhi hi maz aai mazyakadech rahat ase. tithe hi ti diwas bhar ghari ekatich ase. tyanche mitra-maitrini hi thakalele; tyamule gappa phone warach jasti.

kuthe hi rahile tari farak padat nahi. to padato, jevha te apalya ayashyacha bhag nasatat; kinwa tyanna gharpan milat nahi tevha.

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tyana ikde anaiche mhanje ikde tyana
mulanchi kaljee ghene jasti ani baki nantar asey hote >>

ya niyamapramane, bayako swaipak karun ghalate kinwa kapde dhute mhanun tichyabarobar rahayache; nahitar nawara paise milawun anato mhanun tyachya barobar rahayache ase hi mhanata yeil, nahi ka ?

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tari pan, Bangalore / Madras madhye tevdha farak padat nahi, rather jasti bilkul padat nahi .. suruvatila hoto pan lagech adjust hota yete .. huh, jar bhartatlya agdi remote gaavi jaun rahave lagle tar jyachi shakyata agdi kami ! tar bhasha, khane-pine ani bhajya mala nahi vatat veglya ahet .. me rahilo ahey Madras madhye, majhe ajoba military madhye hote, te bhartache charhi toka firle ahet .. hindi madhye sagli vel marun nheta yete :-)

bhajan kirtan mhanaicha uddesh asa ki tya madhye tyanchyach vayachi jasti loka yetat .. arthatch tyatun bhetane hote ani gappa hotat. dusre avadte mhanje patte kutne kivva baage madhye basun gol ringan karun gaani mhanane :-)

mala yevdhach mudda mandaicha ahey ki tyana ikde anle tar kahihi kele tari ikadchya mhatarya (highway varti leftmost lane madhun 50 mph speed ni cadillac chalavnare) mansan madhye tyana misalta yet nahi .. ikde tyana jar kuni tyanchya vayache / barobariche vel ghalvaila bhetle nahi tar kay ???

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

There is a lot of difference in military and civilian life. There is not much of difference going all over india, or even abroad (one of friend was in US on deputation, went back when her daughter was in 9th grade and settled back nicely in pune. I have few relatives in military including my first cousin and brother-in-law), if you are in military. You have your own shops, your colony and couleagues to stay with.

and what if you don't know hindi ? it can happen if you are from a village yourself.

when I mentioned acceptance, I meant accepting people. Even a senior going on highway at 50mph is not much different, if you really try to know her. They might be dressed smartly, smoking like a chimney, but they still love to talk about their children, home and good old days :-)

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

aga pan majhe mhanane tech na, ki aplya aai-baba'nche ani ithyla mhataryanche jamle pahije na ??? mukhya mhanje apan ikde kontyahi shaharat / gaavat asto .. tya pramane ithle gore loka conservative astat .. tyana apan dislele khapat nahi tar aple aai vadil durchi gosht ahey !

me tujhya ani majhya baddal ikde rahane mhanat nahiye tar aplya aai-vadilan baddal mhanat ahey .. hya vayat mala tar vanvas suddha chalel :)

ani marathi yet asel tar hindi bolaila kahich vel lagat nahi kivva kashta suddha padat nahi .. "dhavte dhavte dhaapkini padya .. tel bhi sandya aur tup bhi laundya" mhatle tari kaltech ki ;o))

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 8:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

are pan tuze "dhavte dhavte dhaapkini padya .. tel bhi sandya aur tup bhi laundya" tamil kinwa kanadi hindi version shi julate ka ? ;o))

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tamil ani kanadi lokanna suddha halu halu kalu lagel ;-)) tula nahi ka halu halu "vanakkam" kalaila lagle .. tasech ;o))

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bayako swaipak karun ghalate kinwa kapde dhute mhanun tichyabarobar rahayache; nahitar nawara paise milawun anato mhanun tyachya barobar rahayache ase hi mhanata yeil, nahi ka ? >>>> ithe suddha depends from person to person ani personality to personality !!! pan ti charcha ithe nako, i mean, hya BB varti nako ;o))

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 9:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tamil ani kanadi lokanna suddha halu halu kalu lagel ;-)) >> jase american lokanna kalu lagel tasech. ho na ? :-)

Samrya (Samrya)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Chicago / Atlanta / NY downtown madhye "kallu" mhanun bagh mhanje kalel ;-))

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bakiche jau de, parawach mi maitrinichya aai shi bolat hote. ti aajchya situation chi tulana purvichya kokanashi karat hoti. purvi kase lok mumbaila jayache ani mhatari manase rahayachi kokanat, tasech US / India che hot ahe. tyanchya bolanyawarun watale, ki aai wadilanna utar wayat mulanbarobar nakki rahawese watate, mulanna watate ki nahi he mi sangu shakat nahi :-)

Sandeep_Bodke (Sandeep_Bodke)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Shubha, mala yaatlya legal issue baddal sangshil ka ?? mhanje if u are working on H1, for how long u can bring ur parents here, on which visa & the procedure for that etc. etc..!!!

Storvi (Storvi)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

sandeep, attach maze aai-vadil ithe alet. for how long they can stay here is completely dependent on their status. that is how many kids they have, how many are in India, what assets they have in India etc. My parents got visa for 6 months : visitor visa

Sandeep_Bodke (Sandeep_Bodke)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 1:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

thanks shilpa,but cant i keep my parents with me for more than that time ?? what if someone wants to migrate their parents till the time they are in US ??? i.e. if i wish to have my parents with me for 3-4 yrs ??? & who handles all these legal stuff ?? u have to do by urself or any travel-agents can also do it for u?? what docs or info u need to submit from here in US ?? i.e.ur bank-statements & all ?? please be specific & descriptive..!!

Hemantp (Hemantp)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Sandeep : For visitors visa : u need to send following docs.
1) Invitation Letter : Addr. to consulate office, stating that u want to invite your parents to USA as a tourist, and you will take care of the expenses for travel/lodging/boarding/medical etc. for that period. Invitiaion letter per person will be good idea.
2) Bank Statement : attested by notory officer. some banks show Avg. balance and current balance. some banks show current balance only. Try to show as much balance as possible ( both ).
3) Photocopy of your H1. To proove that u r in USA on a legal status.
4) Employment cert. from your employer. This cert. should state your monthly/annual gross salary. That cert. should also state that u r working at the client in 'this' city.
5) A photocopy of Driver's Licence. Though, not required, helps to proove your residence.

Send these docs. to your parents. At their end, they can go to consulate with some docs. showing their assets ( like property ownership, savings in banks/FDs, postal savings, pension if any etc. ). These docs. can convince that visitors have sufficient reasons to come back to India.

Ask your parents to give all docs. to consulate officer in a bunch. There is no reason to reject the visitors visa.
My parents got their visa ( 4 months, as they asked for only 4 months in the Application form, other option was for 6 months ) in half a minute, no questions asked.
One of my friends parents did not show all docs. in a bunch ( though they carried property docs with them, expecting that consulate officer will 'ask' for it ) and as the docs were not 'complete' the visa was rejected. The original docs. sent by their son were marked as 'rejected' and can not be resumbitted. He then sent the docs. again and were presented in a bunch alongwith property docs. and visa was approved in the second visit.

Now, after 4/6 months, parents can go back and come again. This time they can get visa for 10 yrs and that too in 'drop box' facility.

( if any specific query, drop me a email. )

Sandeep_Bodke (Sandeep_Bodke)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks hemant..!!
Good information..!! I will get back to u if i have any specific query..!!

Deepti_W (Deepti_W)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

yeap... chhan info Hemant..
aani Sandeep, maximum period for Visitor Visa is 10 years...

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Sandeep,
Even if the original visa is for 6 months, you can extend it (by applying to INS) for another 6 months. 1 year is the maximum continuous stay allowed for a visitor. Thay can then return to India and come back again after 6 montha (I think). It works well if the parents are on pension, since they need to submit their living certificate in India anyway, once in a year.
Madras consulate now allows drop-box for senior citizens (over 60) even for first time visa. I am not sure about bombay consulate.

Me_Kon (Me_Kon)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 5:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

btw, majhi info kitpat barobar/chukichi ahe mala mahit nahi, pan 10yrs cha visa milala tari visa ha entry sathi valid asto. mhanje you can enter USA within next 10 yrs. 10 warsha rahaychi parwangi milat nahi. rahaycha limit 6 mahinech asta kinva shubha mhante tasa 1 warsha extend karta yet asel. but definitely not for 10yrs.

Rshubha (Rshubha)
Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 5:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

asmita, tuze barobar ahe. visa varachi mudat entry sathi asate ani I-94 warun rahanyachi mudat tharate. ani I-94 war bahuda 6 mahinech detat. agadi consulate madhe visa magatanahi 6 mahinyapeksha jast magu naye. reject hou shakato. mazya aaicha zala hota. pan mala kahi parat kagadpatre pathawawi lagali nahit. tyanna parat ekada jawe lagale ani nava application gheun (mhanaje application fee parat dyawi lagali), itakach.

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